Any output can Católica me there a detailed explanation of "purgatory"?
In short, purgatory is the application of the grace of Christ to the sinful soul, so that we can be completely clean of all sin before entering heaven.
In that sense, Protestants believe in it, but they do not call it "purgatory" and have no definition of it.
Look, the Bible says that "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23). The Bible also says that "nothing unclean can enter heaven). (Rev. 21:27)
Then, somewhere between death in the flesh as a sinner to enter heaven and totally free of sin, our souls are purged. They should be. It is an absolute necessity. And it's why Jesus went to the cross. (John 3:16, etc.)
We all have to be before the tribunal of Christ, too. "For we must all appear before the tribunal of Christ, so that each one may receive good or evil, as it has done in the body." (2 Cor 5:10)
That is what purgatory is. Die sinners. Let the court of Christ. He cleanses us from all sin completely, and then - only then - can a person go to heaven.
It is totally biblical, and as I said before, the Protestants agree that we must be purified of all sin, before going to heaven and are in agreement that "all have sinned." So when this purification is over will happen, other than between death and heaven? Honestly, people just need to think a little more.
Here are all the biblical references to purification after death before the heavens:
Psalm 66:12, Mt 12:32, Phil 2:10-11, Ecc 12:14, Luke 16:19-31, 1 Thess 3:13, it is 4:4 (cf. Eph 4:8-10 4; : 7 6:5-7 1 Pet 3:19-20) 2 Tim 1:16-18, Mic 7:8-9, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15, Hebrews 12:14, Mal 3:1-4 15 : 29 12:29, 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, 2 Cor 5:10, Rev 5:3,13, Monte 5:25-6, Luke 12:58-9, 7:1, 21:27
P.S. The Vatican has never apologized "to this doctrine and the person who said above is a little crazy for saying so. Or that he has mixed with the "limbo", which never was the doctrine, but only a theory without merit.
I was listening to the radio once Catholic Answers. It was the day for children call ins to the show and a girl who was about 8 I wanted to know what it was like purgatory. The guy says, well you know when you go out and really dirty and her mom has to clean the brush to get all the dirt? The girl said "yes" This says that what God does, but to cleanse his soul. lol
I do not agree with that doctrine, but I guess it was a great analogy for this.
This is what St. Paul said about the three things that can happen to a soul after death:
1 Cor 3:13 Every man's work is manifested. For the day of the Lord shall declare, as evidenced in the fire. And the fire is every man's work, what type it is.
The sky …
1 Cor 3:14 If any of respecting the work that has built thereon, shall receive a reward.
Purgatory …
1 Cor 3:15 If any work recording Mans, who shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved, but so as by fire.
1 Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
Hell …
1 Cor 3:17 If a man violate the temple of God, the God destroy. For God's temple is holy, you are.
It does not get much simpler than that.
Protestants do not understand that for some reason, while the Catholic Church has always done.
The amount of fun things for the Catholic Church teaches and believes it is entirely biblical.
And by the way … Purgatory is not "Limbo" and has always purgatory, now and always will remain a real part of the doctrine of the Catholic Church, and has never been refuted by the Pope.
People who say otherwise simply do not know what they're talking about.
That will not be able to demonstrate that the Bible as it is not a Christian teaching.
It is from pagan roots and not be followed by those who really want to serve God.
More 'Bible' based information please feel free to write me.
Purge the soul. It is the part where the Bible says about fires out of the scum and leave the gold.
* Goes to look up *
anyway. They say that when we, the ordinary Christians, who have not achieved what some call "Nirvana" (okay, I have to laugh now.) Is "perfection", however, died before this happened, but they are not good enough to enter the Throne Room of the Lord, but not bad enough for the Flaming pits of Hell, which are sent to a place where our bad habits (such as snuff and addiction google things on the computer) burned away, and sometimes, in some cases, are burned out for us by other souls …. I am making any sense here? … anyway, there are some souls will sacrifice their punishment for you (Jesus is one of them) to make your stay in Purgatory is shorter and you can meet before God. Many people stay in purgatory until the end of the last days when the great day of reckoning occurs.
That's all I know. Kind of nifty.
I really wish that Catholics view this Q. not seem to realize that anti-Catholics had the opportunity of this issue to bash the Catholic beliefs.
IN THE CENTER OF SUFFERING, but happy because he knows that the result is you will go to heaven instead of hell
(Not a Catholic, but ..) to summarize, purgatory is a place that the soul of a Christian afterlife is going to be cleansed of the sins that had not been fully satisfied in life. This is the doctrine of purgatory, according to the Bible? I think not.
It is a temporary place or state of consciousness after death, who has damaged his union with God. Catholics believe that no one can enter heaven with less attachment to sin.
Those who have the gift of union with God, but possibly going before they were able to truly repent of venial sins. O those who pass without having done sufficient penance to strengthen their union with God or their determination not to sin.
We do not believe that was "saved" we believe we will work toward our salvation until the day I die, and possibly after it. Purgatory is a kind of station for refining / purification prior to meet our creator.
P.S. Some of us do not feel as if they are led by our noses, or "wallet" and Wally try to make us believe. If there is something that only some of us very aware of the responsibilities of our actions on this earth. I heard his last supreme being is only a right to judge any of us. Luckily for me is none of you here tonight.
God bless you all.
"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?"
Gal. 4:16
Purgatory: Gold Mine of the Priesthood
There is much confusion among Protestants towards the Roman Catholic teaching of purgatory, largely because Rome is too careful not to openly discuss where they could hear a Protestant.
However, among the Catholic people, the doctrine is a central theme in the religion of fear that makes them slaves to their priests and pope.
As with other mystery teachings of a religion, teachings on purgatory are somewhat confusing. First, Catholics are taught that there are two kinds of venial and mortal sins. Mortal sins can be sent to hell, and venial sins are easily forgiven. Then they said that mortal sin can have two kinds of eternal punishment (in hell) and temporal (in purgatory).
Even if the priest forgives all mortal sins in confession and death before the next Roman Catholic quickly without more, unless the Catholic has done enough good works and give enough money for his church, which still must go to Purgatory , for "temporary" punishment. For the Catholic, Christ's sacrifice was not enough.
If you're confused is normal. The effect is to keep the Catholics never know for sure when they or their loved ones will be free from purgatory, thus ensuring the continued flow of cash for the priest to say masses to free loved ones from the flames!
"The doctrine of purgatory is based on the assumption that while God forgives sin, His justice nevertheless demands that the sinner must suffer the full punishment due to sin before they are permitted to enter heaven ". (Boettner, Roman Catholicism, p. 219)
The belief in one place by the fire of purification before entering heaven do not start with Roman Catholicism. Which has its roots far back in the ancient mystery religions that gave rise to Christianity today. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and others believed.
Boettner as outlined in his classic work, Roman Catholicism: "In the writings of Augustine (died 430 AD) the doctrine of purgatory was given final shape …
"It was, however, not until the sixth century that it received formal hands of Gregory the Great, who held the papal office 590 to 604 AD The world was divided into the invisible heaven, hell and purgatory, with the imagination trying to portray as clearly as possible the experiences and the topography of each region. The doctrine was proclaimed an article of faith in 1438 by the Council of Florence, and was subsequently confirmed by the Council of Trent in 1548. But can any intelligent person believe that if this place is described as purgatory in the Bible that have taken the parents of the church 600 years to discover that 1000 years and another to confirm it? "
Roman theologians teach that the pain of purgatory is greater than any possible suffering in the human body, sometimes for centuries. Interestingly, the Pope is believed to have authority over purgatory, to be granted "indulgences", which means that people out of purgatory before if they carry out certain actions or to give some gifts to the Roman Church.
However, once he dies, the poor is nothing but a victim of the flames papa like everyone else, depends on the prayers and sacrifices his life to shorten their suffering. What a system!
Catholics must live in constant fear of death. They can not know the sweet peace with a Christian who faces death, to see death as a gateway to the flames, no matter how good are Catholic.
More and more money has been obtained from the bereaved family members who must pay for more prayers and masses said, can not sleep thinking of the torment of their loved ones.
Even then, the priest can not say when it is getting enough! The cry is always for a few more bodies. No wonder that purgatory has been called the "gold mine priesthood!"
How sweet were the words of Jesus as seen in the repentant thief on the cross and adjacent said: "Today shalt thou be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43).
Nearly one billion people have been fed the lie precious, that there is no sure way to escape the flames of the wrath of God. Will tell the truth?
There is no truth ab out purgatory. Only the imagination.
JTM
The Vatican and publicly apologized for the false doctrine of purgatory, a few months ago. You can do a web search and you will find the official press release from the Vatican.
Is "invented" the kingdom of the weak-minded religious Catholics who can not stop sinning, but said the kingdom is not to whine as much as hell. (between heaven and hell) idiotic concept.
A Fictional Dialogue on Purgatory
Paul the Presbyterian: Hey Dante! What is this nonsense about purgatory [spoken with a grimace] that you Catholics teach? Haven’t you read that “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” (2 Cor 5:8)?
Dante the Catholic: First of all, you’re misreading that verse. Paul is saying only that he would rather be present with God in spirit than here in his body. Secondly, your interpretation wouldn’t apply to those who are damned to hell, since they are not “with the Lord.” Thirdly, why would you assume that to be in purgatory is to not be with God?
Paul: Well, I’m impressed. But still, you can’t show me a single verse in the Bible which refers to a state in the afterlife other than heaven or hell.
Dante: Really? I hate to contradict you [smiles], but what about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man (Lk 16:19-31)? This is the Hebrew Sheol (Greek, Hades) since it includes both good and bad men. Heaven can’t have sinners in it (Rev 21:27) and hell wouldn’t have saved persons in it.
Paul: Ah, but this is just a parable. You can’t construct a doctrine out of a story! You’ll have to do better than that.
Dante: I disagree. Jesus wouldn’t tell a falsehood about spiritual matters, even within a parable. This would be misleading. Besides, we’re told that Christ preached to (apparently damned) “spirits in prison” after His death (1 Pet 3:19-20) and took the righteous dead with Him to heaven (Eph 4:8-10). This indicates a divided Sheol or Hades, with the righteous and the wicked: a third place or state.
Paul: Well . . . alright, you got me on that one. But no one could go to heaven until after Jesus’ Resurrection, and then there were only two destinations after death.
Dante: No: Elijah went straight to heaven (2 Ki 2:11), and most Christians believe the same about Enoch (Gen 5:24). So there were two possibilities for the righteous then: Sheol or heaven, just as there are two today: purgatory or heaven, as Jesus strongly hints (Mt 5:25-26, Lk 12:58-59).
Paul: Okay, but what other verse can you come up with?
Dante: Well, Paul accepts prayers for the dead, which presupposes a purgatory, where dead men can still be assisted.
Paul: Come on! Now you’re really off the deep end. Where?
Dante: In 1 Corinthians 15:29, Paul refers to people being “baptized for the dead.” And he appears to pray for a dead man, Onesiphorus, in 2 Timothy 1:16-18.
Paul: What do you think he means by “baptisms for the dead?”
Dante: We think he is referring to acts of penance and prayers for the dead. “Baptism” is often a metaphor for suffering (Mk 10:38-39, Lk 3:16, 12:50), and Paul seems to have 2 Maccabees 12:44 in mind - a very similar verse which explicitly teaches the propriety of prayers for the dead.
Paul: But that’s in the Apocrypha. We don’t accept that.
Dante: I know, but if Paul is indeed referring to it, that’s beside the point, and you still have to interpret Paul somehow. But there’s more: Jesus speaks of sins being forgiven in the “world to come” (Mt 12:32), and three levels of judgment (Mt 5:22). These must be references to purgatory. Scripture oftens mentions a “fire” and a purging, cleansing process by which we become holy (Ex 19:18, Is 4:4, 6:7, Mal 3:1-4, 2 Cor 7:1, 1 Thess 4:3,7, 1 Jn 3:2-3, Heb 12:29).
Paul: But why would God want to torment us like that? What’s the point? Why wouldn’t He just forgive us and be done with it, since Jesus already bore all our penalties (Is 53:4-6)?
Dante: God is holy and perfect as well as loving, and this process is simply the way we must enter into His presence. Besides, it’s much more merciful to allow people to be purged of their remaining sins after death as a prelude to heaven, than to condemn them to hell. Whatever the reason, God has revealed purgatory to us in the Bible. Paul talks about the “judgment seat of Christ” (1 Cor 3:11-15, 2 Cor 5:10), where our works will be “tested,” after which some will be saved “only as through fire.” In all essentials, this is precisely what Catholics mean by purgatory. Don’t you believe in the “judgment seat of Christ,” and that holiness is required to see God (Heb 12:14-15,23, Eph 5:5)?
Paul: Well sure, but it takes place quickly at the Judgment.
Dante: Okay, suppose I grant you that. Now we’re only arguing about duration, a mere quantitative rather than qualitative dispute. Why quibble over details? We’re not far apart.
Paul: Yes, but we don’t think that this judgment goes on for thousands of years, with the sufferers losing all hope.
Dante: No one knows how long the process will take for any individual. Paul makes no indication. But all these suffering souls know they are saved and will go to heaven eventually. Purgatory is the vestibule to heaven, not hell. You believe we’ll be zapped, and I think it’ll take a bit longer. But there is agreement that some purging takes place.
Paul: Wow! I never thought of it in that way. But if the Bible teaches this, I can’t disagree with it. Thanks, Dante!