Catholics, in view of the Easter ….?
What is the confession to a Catholic priest something that is required by the Church? When Jesus was crucified and the curtain in the temple was destroyed, which does not eliminate the need for a priest to go to God for us? This is just something that confuses me. Maybe I am just ignorant in some respect, but this seems to go against the Bible.
No, you're not ignorant, you are right. It's silly.
VKR
and simple reality.
People do not like to admit their guilt and misdemeanors. We are proud people and like to live our lives as we want without the other tells us how to live. In addition, people are now thinking why reveal their weaknesses to a man who can be just as guilty of sin. The integrity of Catholic priests has been concerned for some time.
Im not catholic, so Ive never confessed sins to a man of the cloth. I think in general, if a man or a woman is contrite and repentant away from that sin, the forgiveness of God in prayer - in private. But nevertheless I can see how maybe some serious sins may need assistance. ie. Adultery, addiction, murder …. these Woud sensative hearing and require the assistance of some kind.
I was raised Catholic.
Sounds silly to me, too.
Now I'm agnostic.
You are not ignorant of anything that the priest is ignorant of the Bible and its teachings has no right or authority to forgive sins 1 Tim 2, 5.6 Acts 2:13,14 Col 4:12 that power is to the Godhead, as Jesus and his Father see ps 83 18 OKJV
The curtain is grating has nothing to do with the abolition of the New Testament priesthood.
This concept is not boot, it's a little trick of the hand, and has always been a great heresy.
The veil was torn from top to bottom when the Holy Spirit Temple aborted. This happened at the same time that runs through Jesus with the spear.
That event marked the end of the effectiveness of the Old Testament priesthood, and marked the end of the sufficiency of animal sacrifices, too.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the new covenant church, priests or new covenant.
Jesus personally instituted the new covenant and the ministerial priesthood, the night before he died, at the Last Supper, in particular to comply with the Passover, and replace the old system with a new and better focused on Jesus himself.
It would have been really stupid about the deletion of this new system, the next day.
We Catholics still observe literally Jesus' to "Do this in memory of me." using the same bread and wine, and the same words that Jesus used at the first night of Holy Thursday.
And those who always have to officiate at the Lord's Supper, that Catholics know as the Mass were the apostles, who became the first new covenant priests and later, the church grew, are empowered to order other good men to do it, too.
The royal priesthood of all believers gives us the right to pray to God, and know that will listen to our requests.
The ministerial priesthood is composed of men who have been specially reserved and ordered by the Church for the service (and most importantly, the sacrifice) to God.
The most important part of this service is offered to Jesus, the perfect, eternal, one time, once and for all sacrifice for sin, your Father in heaven for us and with us until the end of times.
When the priest pronounces the words of consecration, by the power of the Holy Spirit, and according to the will of God, Jesus becomes truly and substantially present on the altar.
And since Jesus is the eternal sacrifice for sin, our encounter with him allows us to participate in his eternal sacrifice in a real and most personal way.
Suppose for a moment, you can arrange some way to go back in time and actually meet George Washington, dark night, cold and winter, the mud stuck to their boots, pants soaked, sleet and snow on his coat, red cheeks, smelling a little fish, after having crossed the Delaware.
How would real ol 'George seem to you then?
This is similar to what Catholics actually experience when Jesus becomes present to us at the altar, first as a sacrifice, and then, as Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, High Priest, Prophet, King , Mediator and Savior of mankind, to be personally received and love in the flesh.
The Holy Spirit, through the Catholic Church and the priestly ministry accomplishes this greatest of miracles, 24 / 7, 365, every hour of every day, around the world.
And everybody in the whole world understands this perfectly for the first 1500 years of Christian history.
It was only at the end of the day so that the reformers want to move away from Rome, who also chose to deny themselves, and all who would come after their names, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist authentic.
Jesus in the Eucharist, the altar confected as Christ commanded, and by a duly ordained Catholic priest, remains the source and summit of all Christian life, and God's greatest gift to humanity.
This does not contradict the Bible. Is the central message of the Bible and the fulfillment of all Scripture.
"Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them. And they shall be His people and God Himself will be with them and be their God. "
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the Catholic church is a cult
AMEN AMEN! I think everything I just said. No where in the Bible where it says you have to go to a priest to confess their sins. No more than in the Bible that says you must repent of their sins to a priest the church, or you can not take communion. Tell me again why Catholics believe such lies?
This is a tactic to keep you away from God's presence.
As a former Catholic who was amazing to realize this - the Catholic church, of course, never discussed, but you are right - the sacrifice of Christ tore the curtain representing the shortcut between God and men, including the confession and forgiveness of sins.
One of the websites above penence said that Christ is estblished - false - the "church" did - no writing in any way related.
What reason could give to the Catholics of the blind be broken in half?
The Catholic Church believes that "Only God forgives sin."
When a penitent person asks God for forgiveness, his (or his) sins are immediately forgiven.
Catholics also believe that when someone sins that not only hurt their relationship with God, but also hurt the whole church, the body of Christ.
Jesus said, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. What bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. "(Matthew 16:19)
And when he had said this, breathed on them and told them: "Receive the Holy Spirit. Who forgives sins are forgiven, whose sins you retain are retained. " (Luke 20:22-23)
The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation with a priest ordained in the name of Jesus Christ not only reconciles the sinner to God, but with the whole church, including you and me.
With love in Christ.
read the Catholic Catechism of the Catholic Church - will tell.
You're very good, and it is so sad that so few people see the obvious truth that just noted. No more need for a preist, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5) "It is finished"
When a Catholic goes to confession is a ritual. The real confession - a prayer to God for the forgiveness of sins - doesn't require a priest.
The ritual is necessary (unlesss prevent the circumstances) - but not Catholic "confession to a priest - the priest does not" speak with God "in the name of the person. Functionally, the human side of this - to talk to the priest - serves as a way to provide guidence - and provide concrete action to show repentance (which is exclusively for the benefit of the person that the confession). This is called the "penance - Andis usually a requirement to specifically pray for God's help not to repeat the sin (s).
One last point - it is considered a "conversation with God"-the priest is merely symbolic stand-in) - the Church demands absolute confidentiality - and I mean all.
This sacrament is based on the mission that God gave to Christ as the Son of man on earth and will forgive sins (cf. Matt. 9:6). Thus, the crowd who witnessed this new power "glorified God who had given such authority to men" (Matthew 9:8; note the plural "men"). After his resurrection, Jesus went on his mission to forgive the sins of his ministers, saying: "As the Father has sent me, even so I send you …. Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins are forgiven them, if retengáis, they are retained "(John 20:21-23).
Since it is not possible to confess all of our daily faults, we know that sacramental reconciliation is required only for grave or mortal sins, but it is necessary, or Christ would not have ordered it.
Over time, the ways in which the sacrament has been administered have changed. In the early Church, publicly known sins (such as apostasy) were often confessed openly in church, though private confession to a priest is always an option of private sins. However, the confession is not just something in the silence of God, but do something "in the church," as the Didache (AD 70) says.
Penances also tend to be made before and not after the acquittal, which were much stricter than those of today (ten years' penance for abortion, for example, was common in the early Church).
However, the basics of the sacrament have always been there, as the following quotations reveal. Of particular importance is the recognition that the confession and absolution must be received by a sinner before receiving Holy Communion, for "[w] Hoever … Eat the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy way to be guilty of profaning the Body and Blood of the Lord "(1 Cor. 11:27).
The Didache
"Confess your sins in church, and do not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life …. In the Lord's Day meeting, the bread and give thanks after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure "(Didache 4:14, 14:1 [AD 70]).
The Letter of Barnabas
"You are judged fairly. You should not make a schism, but to pacify those who argue for a while. You confess your sins. You should not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the path of light "(Letter of Barnabas 19 [AD 74]).
Peace and blessing of all!
"Jesus said to them again," Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so am I sending you. " And when he had said this, breathed on them and told them: "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins they are forgiven; retengáis if any, they are retained. " "- - John 20:21-23
Confession is a sacrament of forgiveness and healing that has been with the Church from the beginning. John 20:21-23 shows it: "As the Father has sent me, even so I send you …. Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins they are forgiven if you retain the sins of any, to be maintained. "
I think it is also confused by the old law Testatment New Testament. The priests of ancient sacrifice to God for the Jewish people to the Jewish Temple, and then only the high priest could enter that sacred place in the temple known as the Holy of Holies. The veil covering the whole world was because it was considered unfit to enter God's presence, therefore, only be allowed highpriest.
This separation ended when Christ died for us. Scripture teaches us that in his death, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom, showing that through Christ who had finally union with God.
This is the meaning of the curtain in the temple in an area that is separate from talk of the sacraments, including confession.
As shown in John 20, Jesus gave the Apostles the power to forgive or retain sins, and that power has been done through all the successors of Peter to the present. The sacrament forgives us our sins, because we still sin, especially mortal sins that cut a little of God.
Here is a good link: http://catholic.com/library/Confession.a …
God bless.
You are correct. When Jesus died on the curtain of the temple was torn in two. As the Scripture says it was torn in two from top to bottom. If the man had torn the curtain had been ripped from the base. But God the Father tore the veil, which means that men no longer need the Levi (priest) to make the sacrifice for the sins of the people. Jesus died once for the sins of all men.
Now it is up to man to believe that Jesus paid the debt in full. As Jesus said: "I am the way, truth and life, nobody comes to the Father except through me"
Great Question!
Yes, I was raised Catholic too.
The real problem I have a confession to a priest is an opportunity to be humiliated. Its an insult to my ego! so I have a reluctance to go. But anyway I'm leaving because I have to keep the good fight.
This is how I interpret the curtain torn, God no longer hides behind her. Goes directly into the souls of people. Before the curtain torn we needed a priest, our sacrifice to God. Today is different. Now, the priest presents the sacrifice of Jesus to the U.S.! I recognize Jesus behind the priest.
As Jesus said to call Nunn St. Faustina:
"Come with faith to my agent. I myself am waiting there for you … Never discuss what kind of priest is that I'm using, open your soul in confession as if it were for me, and I fill it with my light. "
… especially in the light of Easter.
I have never heard of the curtain in the temple is grating. Where you 'quote' that?
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