http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/ Books, Magazines, and Audio, and Video Resources for Catholics Wed, 23 May 2012 23:09:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12594 imacatho Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12594 Not really - but there was a great effort to raise funds for the construction of great cathedrals in Europe at the moment. Indulgences can be obtained through various works of charity and sacrifice, including contributions to the work of God. That teaching has not changed and remains as true today as it was then. However, inappropriate excessive monetary contributions at the time that creates the appearance of "selling indulgences", which of course can not be bought or sold. Luther and many others have rightly objected to this excess. Many worked in the Church of God to right this injustice, and succeeded in achieving the necessary reforms. Unfortunately, Luther left the Church of God and man filed a tradition unauthorized based on unbiblical principles, he has done great damage to Christianity. Not really - but there was a great effort to raise funds for the construction of great cathedrals in Europe at the moment. Indulgences can be obtained through various works of charity and sacrifice, including contributions to the work of God. That teaching has not changed and remains as true today as it was then. However, inappropriate excessive monetary contributions at the time that creates the appearance of "selling indulgences", which of course can not be bought or sold. Luther and many others have rightly objected to this excess. Many worked in the Church of God to right this injustice, and succeeded in achieving the necessary reforms. Unfortunately, Luther left the Church of God and man filed a tradition unauthorized based on unbiblical principles, he has done great damage to Christianity.

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12595 PaulCyp Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12595 Do you know what an indulgence, by the way, did you know that the organization meet the new testement next was the same group that became the Catholic church and the group that put a little more in the new books testement 1500 who were former Jewish texts that Christ preached. all these were omitted from the Bible of Martin Luther. Just so happens that these books exist in the Catholic Bible contradicts much of what the Protestant church cree. Do you know what an indulgence, by the way, did you know that the organization meet the new testement next was the same group that became the Catholic church and the group that put a little more in the new books testement 1500 who were former Jewish texts that Christ preached. all these were omitted from the Bible of Martin Luther. Just so happens that these books exist in the Catholic Bible contradicts much of what the Protestant church cree.

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12596 david b Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12596 yes, its so well known that Catholics cannot even deny it.   But I think the point was that Martin Luther learned that preist is preaching things that were not in the Bible as indulgences.   I wonder why people are still Catholic even though the know.   @ Paul   . Indulgences can be obtained through various works of charity and sacrifice, including contributions to the work of God. This teaching has not changed and remains as true today as it was then "   Really, that Catholics still believe   "The Catholic Church has long ago abandoned such practices."   Wow now I only have to wait for the Catholic Church to renouce their views before contrception martial sex yes, its so well known that Catholics cannot even deny it.
  But I think the point was that Martin Luther learned that preist is preaching things that were not in the Bible as indulgences.
  I wonder why people are still Catholic even though the know.
  @ Paul
  . Indulgences can be obtained through various works of charity and sacrifice, including contributions to the work of God. This teaching has not changed and remains as true today as it was then "
  Really, that Catholics still believe
  "The Catholic Church has long ago abandoned such practices."
  Wow now I only have to wait for the Catholic Church to renouce their views before contrception martial sex

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12597 Panda Bear Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12597 Pope sold indulgences ... I needed to raise money for the Vatican, was the building and the church was spending money in your own personal use.   Martin Luther was concerned about the souls of those who buy indulgences and challenged the Catholic church ... Martin Luther never intended to leave the church. Pope sold indulgences … I needed to raise money for the Vatican, was the building and the church was spending money in your own personal use.
  Martin Luther was concerned about the souls of those who buy indulgences and challenged the Catholic church … Martin Luther never intended to leave the church.

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12598 FROG E Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12598 True. In fact it is one of the things Martin Luther "protested" about.   The funny thing is that after the protesters broke away from the Catholics, Catholicism has its own reform. Unfortunately, completely renovated in different directions ... True. In fact it is one of the things Martin Luther "protested" about.
  The funny thing is that after the protesters broke away from the Catholics, Catholicism has its own reform. Unfortunately, completely renovated in different directions …

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12599 Free Stuff in 2012 Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12599 The sale of indulgences plenary was the most famous of simony Luther protested. The Catholic Church has long given up such practices.   Remember that the Catholic hierarchy in the Renaissance was pretty vile. The sale of indulgences plenary was the most famous of simony Luther protested. The Catholic Church has long given up such practices.
  Remember that the Catholic hierarchy in the Renaissance was pretty vile.

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12600 ⌡Mac⌠ Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12600 Mainly.   The Pope was the sale of indulgences in the Middle Ages ... but the number of Martin Luther with the Pope was not the right to grant indulgences ... only the excesses of it. He fully agreed with the pope the right to grant them. Read Martin Luther's 95 Theses 95 .... all were indulgences. The money from the sale of indulgences was a fundraiser to build the Vatican.   Indulgence: The remission of temporal punishment due to sin, the guilt that has been forgiven.   Yes, Jesus did forgive the rate on the cross next to him after he repented - but Jesus did not allow him to get off the cross. He has yet to experience any physical punishment put on the cross to start!   St. Paul, is also upset that one of the Corinthians had been lying around with his brother's wife Paul said ... for the rest of the community to avoid it. In II Corinthians, Paul told the church members to "soften up" (so to speak) in the same punishment that was imposed ... therefore this was granted an indulgence Pablo although not defined as such. Thus, the punishment of men is more psychological than physical.   Realizing that the Protestants, while the price Jesus paid for our sins before God, does not relieve our obligation to fix what we have done. To fully recognize that if they steal someone's car, you have to give back, is not enough to repent. God's forgiveness (and man) does not include allowing you to keep the stolen car.   Protestants also admit the principle of the temporal punishment of sin, in practice, when one speaks of death. Scripture says death entered the world through original sin (Gen. 3:22-24, Rom. 5:12). The first time you come to God are forgiven, and when we sin later we can be forgiven, but we are not free from physical punishment. Even die forgiven, is still a penalty after our sins are forgiven. This is a temporal penalty since physical death is temporary and will be resurrected (Dan. 12:2). http://www.catholic.com/library/Primer_o ...   Here's more:   Thesis # 7: God sends no one to blame who is not at the same time, humble in all things and bring into subjection to his vicar, the priest.   # 38: remission and participation [in the blessings of the Church] which are granted by the pope are in no way to be despised, because they are, as I said, the declaration of divine remission.   # 40: True contrition seeks and loves penalties   # 47: Christians are taught that the buying of pardons is a matter of free will, and no warrant   # 49: Christians are taught that the grace of the pope are useful, if not put their trust in them, but absolutely detrimental, through them, if they lose their fear of God.   # 61: Because it is clear that for the remission of penalties and reserved cases, the power of the pope is of itself sufficient.   # 64: On the other hand, the treasure of indulgences, of course, is more acceptable   # 69: Bishops and curative are obliged to accept the commissioners of apostolic pardons, with all reverence.   # 71: He who speaks against the truth of apostolic pardons, is anathema and accursed!   SUMMARY: indulgences as Luther are good ... not only the excesses of them!   So ... Why Protestants do not follow the teachings of their church, "Father" and condone indulgences - or priests regard vicar of God (see # 7)?   P.S. If Luther believed to be priests vicars of God, then obviously the office of the priest did not die at the time of Jesus. The need for the high priest was no longer necessary because Jesus has this feature, but in Jesus days a ministerial priesthood which serves as the High Priest. Today, the Catholic and Orthodox priests THROUGH serve the priesthood of Jesus Christ, the new and eternal High Priest. Which are not separate high priesthood of Jesus! Mainly.
  The Pope was the sale of indulgences in the Middle Ages … but the number of Martin Luther with the Pope was not the right to grant indulgences … only the excesses of it. He fully agreed with the pope the right to grant them. Read Martin Luther's 95 Theses 95 …. all were indulgences. The money from the sale of indulgences was a fundraiser to build the Vatican.
  Indulgence: The remission of temporal punishment due to sin, the guilt that has been forgiven.
  Yes, Jesus did forgive the rate on the cross next to him after he repented - but Jesus did not allow him to get off the cross. He has yet to experience any physical punishment put on the cross to start!
  St. Paul, is also upset that one of the Corinthians had been lying around with his brother's wife Paul said … for the rest of the community to avoid it. In II Corinthians, Paul told the church members to "soften up" (so to speak) in the same punishment that was imposed … therefore this was granted an indulgence Pablo although not defined as such. Thus, the punishment of men is more psychological than physical.
  Realizing that the Protestants, while the price Jesus paid for our sins before God, does not relieve our obligation to fix what we have done. To fully recognize that if they steal someone's car, you have to give back, is not enough to repent. God's forgiveness (and man) does not include allowing you to keep the stolen car.
  Protestants also admit the principle of the temporal punishment of sin, in practice, when one speaks of death. Scripture says death entered the world through original sin (Gen. 3:22-24, Rom. 5:12). The first time you come to God are forgiven, and when we sin later we can be forgiven, but we are not free from physical punishment. Even die forgiven, is still a penalty after our sins are forgiven. This is a temporal penalty since physical death is temporary and will be resurrected (Dan. 12:2). http://www.catholic.com/library/Primer_o …
  Here's more:
  Thesis # 7: God sends no one to blame who is not at the same time, humble in all things and bring into subjection to his vicar, the priest.
  # 38: remission and participation [in the blessings of the Church] which are granted by the pope are in no way to be despised, because they are, as I said, the declaration of divine remission.
  # 40: True contrition seeks and loves penalties
  # 47: Christians are taught that the buying of pardons is a matter of free will, and no warrant
  # 49: Christians are taught that the grace of the pope are useful, if not put their trust in them, but absolutely detrimental, through them, if they lose their fear of God.
  # 61: Because it is clear that for the remission of penalties and reserved cases, the power of the pope is of itself sufficient.
  # 64: On the other hand, the treasure of indulgences, of course, is more acceptable
  # 69: Bishops and curative are obliged to accept the commissioners of apostolic pardons, with all reverence.
  # 71: He who speaks against the truth of apostolic pardons, is anathema and accursed!
  SUMMARY: indulgences as Luther are good … not only the excesses of them!
  So … Why Protestants do not follow the teachings of their church, "Father" and condone indulgences - or priests regard vicar of God (see # 7)?
  P.S. If Luther believed to be priests vicars of God, then obviously the office of the priest did not die at the time of Jesus. The need for the high priest was no longer necessary because Jesus has this feature, but in Jesus days a ministerial priesthood which serves as the High Priest. Today, the Catholic and Orthodox priests THROUGH serve the priesthood of Jesus Christ, the new and eternal High Priest. Which are not separate high priesthood of Jesus!

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12601 The Carmelite Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12601 Exactly right.   But things were of course long before the Middle Ages. Get the whole story here: http://gospelengima.com Exactly right.
  But things were of course long before the Middle Ages. Get the whole story here: http://gospelengima.com

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12602 Lakely Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12602 That is one of the issues that Martin Luther had with the Church that led to his proclamation, yes.   More than that, despite being the central theme of his 95 Theses. That is one of the issues that Martin Luther had with the Church that led to his proclamation, yes.
  More than that, despite being the central theme of his 95 Theses.

]]> http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-12603 Phoenix - under the pear tree Mon, 11 May 2009 15:57:18 +0000 http://www.romancatholicresources.com/2009/05/is-it-true-that-the-catholic-priests-were-selling-indulgences-in-the-middle-ages-and-there-the-reform/#comment-12603 Probably. Makes Catholics complain that the finances of Scientology seem hypocritical, huh? Probably. Makes Catholics complain that the finances of Scientology seem hypocritical, huh?

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