Limbo? Now that the Catholic Church is to get rid of the idea of limbo, which also gets rid of Purgatory?
We know for a fact that much of Catholic doctrine is not based on biblical teachings, and now that someone woke up and decided to get rid of "Limbo" doctrine is correct all the other teachings and doctrines that are wrong with the church?
because there is no biblical "purgatory" to "get rid" of it.
Short answer, limbo was never official Catholic doctrine, Purgatory, however, is.
That sounds like they are completely mixed! God is the same yesterday, today and forever! He is not changing things all the time!
Geesh. For the thousandth time, the limb was never a doctrine. Purgatory is.
You say that you know of a fact that Catholic doctrine is not based on the Bible - I say that obviously do not know yet what is our education.
And the Church has changed nothing.
As others have said, the existence of limbo was always just a religious theory, not dogma or doctrine. The Bible does not tell us what happens to babies who die before being baptized. Those who argue that babies go to heaven are creating their own doctrine that is incompatible with the Bible.
Purgatory is the process by which a soul is on its way to heaven and purified to perfection by the grace of God. This is a matter of doctrine and if so, do not get deleted.
Yes, I hope. This will be a relief for those with faith. I was a Catholic and never did believe that the babies went to limbo. See, I was a free thinker. It is best to maintain the doctrine according to Scripture.
Sources of the Doctrine + +
Therefore, brethren, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions you were taught, either through an oral statement or a letter of ours. (2 Thessalonians 2:15)
The Catholic Church does not use Scripture as the only basis of doctrine. I could not. The early Catholic church existed before and during the time the New Testament was written (by Catholics).
There were hundreds of Christian writings during the first and second centuries. New Testament writings would become official was not fully decided until about 400 AD.
Catholics believe the Holy Spirit was guiding the early church (and is now rector of the church) to make the correct choice on things like:
+ The Holy Trinity (which is only hinted at in the Bible)
+ Go to church on Sunday instead of Saturday (which is actually directly against one of the Ten Commandments)
+ Communion of Saints
+ What are written in the New Testament?
Things that are even more modern and
+ Slavery is bad. Slavery is never declared evil in the Bible. This was one of the justifications for slavery in the Confederate States.
+ Democracy is good. The Bible says that God must either be the leader of the nation like Israel before the kings or kings should be the leader, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's." This has been much talk during the American Revolution.
This second source of doctrine is called Apostolic Tradition.
Christians do not allow the continuing guiding force of the Holy Spirit to make their beliefs more and more perfect, still approve of slavery as Colossians 3:22 commands, "Slaves, obey your human masters in everything"?
We instruct you, brothers, on behalf of (our) Lord Jesus Christ, to avoid any brother that takes place in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us. (2 Thessalonians 3:6)
I praise you because they remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them to you. (1 Corinthians 11:2) http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1s …
+ + Limbo
The Church has reflected on the proposal of limbo for about one hundred years and has decided that's not a good idea. Limbo was never official doctrine.
Jesus said, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved. "(Mark 16:15-16)
For centuries, people have wondered about the children who died before they were baptized. The Bible does not explicitly state that they will go to heaven.
Limbo was suggested as a place where unbaptized babies died. This idea was never official doctrine of the Church and has been rejected.
The church now says that he is not sure what happens to unbaptized babies when they die, but relies on the mercy of God.http: / / http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2s …
Purgatory + +
"But if someone's work is burned up, it will suffer a loss, the person is saved, but only through fire." (1 Corinthians 3:15)
"Thus the authenticity of their faith, more precious than gold which is perishable evidence, though by fire, may be praise, glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 1:7)
Is it perfect now? Most people would say no.
Will it be perfect in heaven? Most people believe so.
Purgatory (or purgation) is the process of God's love changing our imperfect beings themselves perfect.
Depending on the amount of change required by different people, this may be a little easier or process.
Everyone in purgatory is on its way to heaven.
I do not think Mother Teresa of Calcutta had a very difficult time it.http: / / http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1s …
+ With love in Christ.
I did all my primary and secondary schools with nuns and priests, religion is a compulsory subject, which can not graduate if not religion. I remember that I always ended up going to accept Limbo and Purgatory. They teach that until he got out of our ears. If someone has the misfortune to be beaten by a bus and die in a state of mortal sin, which includes the missing Mass on Sunday, eating fish on Friday, his soul went straight to purgatory until the day of redemption.
If someone dies without having received the sacrament of baptism, which went straight to limbo. I remember asking the sisters ", but why a poor baby who died shortly after birth limbo ?"… be used for the response, "the baby must be baptized" … I used to ask "is that limbo forever … the answer was always the same, "yes."
I could never accept the teaching of these then and still can not now (especially because this happened to me).
I believe that God is love and forgives all, so I know absolutely that He did not send an innocent baby limbo for all eternity.
Therefore, I do not know if it is the doctrine or the teachings of a group of clerics, but I can not believe these teachings live. I think the Church needs to update itself if it wants to survive.
Limbo has never been Catholic doctrine, but was used theologically to explain what happened to children who died without baptism. The doctrine of Purgatory is actually based on Scripture, despite the denials of some less-informed Christians. The closest that the Catechism of the Catholic Church reaches referreing to the idea of limbo (not doctrine, has never been a doctrine) is the following:
"# 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to God's mercy, as in their funeral rites for them. In fact, the great mercy of God who wants all men to be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," 64 us hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism. "
It's a good idea as the teaching of purgatory really can not be wasted scripture.I long supported the dream of a good sentence for which there when I was in Catholic high school. What a waste of time! Arrgh!
>> decided to get rid of "Limbo" doctrine <<
Limbo is not and never has been, a doctrine.
Does the Catholic Church still believe in limbo, a place for unbaptized babies go if they die without baptism?
The Catholic Church does not "believe" in limbo. The existence of limbo for unbaptized children is not part of divine revelation, but that was and is a theological education "guess." The term was coined by St. Augustine of Hippo and literally means "fringe." This happened because God did not choose to reveal what happens to babies who died unbaptized. We know that baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation (John 3:5) because God revealed this. We also know that something called "baptism of desire" is possible. Since unbaptized infants seem incapable of any "desire" or act of his will, theologians have speculated throughout the ages about their destiny, in this context, St. Augustine thought it would be an offense against God's justice to assume that would allow such creatures to suffer any pain, but rather that God puts these children in a state of "natural", but not supernatural happiness of eternity. This is called "limbo." Other theologians say that God is universal salvation "(1 Timothy 2:4) includes unbaptized people who have no power to reason when they die and enjoy supernatural happiness in some way that we do not now know. Catholics are free to believe or not believe in limbo. Unbaptized What happens to people without the use of reason and who die in this state is an open question. Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, number 1261.
The Catholic Church is not the idea of getting rid of limbo.
(Where do you pick that up?)
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As for Purgatory, there is no point of getting rid of it all, because it is a place of suffering for those who must be eliminated in order to enter heaven. It is revealed in Scripture.