Comments on: Protestant attention. A challenge! Can a Catholic Catechism The Protestant Cotización Please? In Purgatory?

By: Jennifer

Jennifer — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

No can do, not because the Catholic Church teaches that purgatory is a "second chance at salvation."
Of course, you already know that, so I'm preaching to the choir here.
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By: Christen L

Christen L — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Quote the Bible would be more fun
Purgatory is not in the Scriptures "
Also charge some fundamentalists, as if really proved something, "The word is not at all find purgatory in the Scriptures." That is true, however, does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that the belief in which has always been part of Church teaching. Trinity and the Incarnation are not words in Scripture, either, but the doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, but does not use that word, and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.
Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven either in this age or the age to come" (Matthew 12:32), suggesting that one can be released after the death of one of the consequences of sin . Similarly, Paul tells us that when they are judged, every man's work will be judged.
What if a man does not work well tested? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only through fire" (1 Cor 3:15).
Now this loss, this penalty, can not refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there, and the sky can not be said, there is no suffering ( "fire") there. Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.
Then, of course, the Bible is the approval of the prayers for the dead: "This was a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in sight, because if not expected the dead to rise again, it would have been futile and absurd to pray for them in death.
But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had come to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. So I made atonement for the dead who could be freed from this sin "(2 macc. 12:43-45).
Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and nobody can help those in hell. This means that some people should be in third condition, at least temporally. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory, which, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees of the Bible in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.
Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ.
Not only can we show that was practiced by the Jews of the era of the Maccabees, but he has been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer of mourning known as the Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one to Loved that can be purified. It was not the Catholic Church added that the doctrine of purgatory.
Conversely, any change in education has taken place in Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that has always been believed by Jews and Christians.

By: azqsx

azqsx — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Does not need. I go to heaven when you die.
Blessings

By: smegmaki

smegmaki — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Do not expect the cast to understand the Catechism. Ah well not understand the Bible. Yes, you read that … that simply is not explained.

By: Lebutzke

Lebutzke — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but imperfectly purified, are indeed the security of your eternal salvation, but after the death undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter in the joy of heaven.
1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is completely different from the punishment of damned.606 The Church formulated its doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire: 607
As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that before the Reckoning, there is a purifying fire. He says that truth is that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but some others in the age come.608
1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, which could be delivered from their sin . 609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, especially the Eucharistic sacrifice, so, therefore, purified, can reach the beatific vision of the God.610 Church also commends almsgiving, the indulgences and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:
We will help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by the sacrifice of his father, why doubt that our offerings for the dead to be some consolation? Do not hesitate to help those who have died and offer our prayers for them.611

By: Jade

Jade — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

What is the question?
We are all Christians are not? Windows Who cares? Jesus is just back from a church.

By: Klute

Klute — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Protestants usually respond "It is not writing ', little realizing that those Catholics who compiled the Scriptures. It was the Catholic Church compiled the Bible as we know it.
The only reason you want to read a Protestant on this issue, is whether s / he is trying to dismantle or an ex-Catholic.
If you would like to read a little about the subject, I suggest you try http://www.catholic.com/library/Roots_of here … …

By: Misty

Misty — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Obviously not going to power, the same goes with trying to prove Sola Scriptura … but I think anyway.
Edward J - the kind of comment hurts Catholics and non Catholics to believe something that is not true.
Purgatory does not teach that Christ's sacrifice was enough, but it teaches that "nothing sinful or unclean can enter heaven."
Do not pay to have a mass said, is a voluntary donation … not required. Most people donate money, because they see it as a gift in the name of the deceased. People do this all the time on other aspects of life … planting trees, make bricks, to give charity … in the name of their loved ones.
You may be a former Catholic, but you did not know was that one or understand their faith.

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

Why would I want? The Roman Catholic Catechism is not Scripture.
Indeed, the Eastern Orthodox Church does not believe that there is a purgatory.
I think it is quite possibly the life of this world! Happening now.

By: Edward J

Edward J — Wed, 06 May 2009 09:18:49 +0000

I am a former Catholic. What is purgatory implies that Jesus' death on the cross was not enough to save men from their sins. So they can work outside for a long period of time. I know some still practice it. Recently, my friends mother died. A friend of the family pays to have a mass said for her. That was really a shot again to all the indulgence he had problems with Luther. You can not buy someone out of purgatory. On top of that neither Jesus nor any of his disciples, or apostles, or Mary or Joseph or Paul mentions a place called purgatory. If the important thing is that it would be a glaring omission of Jesus and all these other heavyweights spirtual have overlooked.