Comments on: See how Catholics celebrate the Eucharist (the wine and the Host) Is Jesus the Body and Blood?

By: Search4t

Search4t — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

You have a very good question and not to blame for not understanding the context of what is said in the last supper. Many people do not. You do not understand Catholic doctrine and has been twisted here. We know that Jesus died once, but I do not understand is what it says in Hebrews is an eternal sacrifice.
Furthermore, citing what he said at the Last Supper Jesus not understand what "this" is. When Jesus says, "do this in rememberence Me" is to tell the disciples to change bread and wine into his body and blood. That is what Jesus did before he made the comment, "do this".
Can I give you something to keep in mind? Meditate and reflect on the following Bible stories:
1. The wedding of Cana (John 2-1-12):
In the first miracle of Jesus, He changes the water contained in the bottles used for Jewish purification rituals in wine. Christ purifies and changes when he receives the consecrated bread and wine.
2. Feeding the multitude (Matt. 14:13-21, Mark 6:30-44, Luke 9:10-17, John 6:1-14.
In this miracle Jesus tells his disciples to give the crowd something to eat. Jesus knew that the disciples did not have the means to do and see the crowd with pity, because "they were like sheep without a shepherd." Jesus then says to Peter to feed his sheep. Ordained ministers who follow Christ commanded the apostles as they do by feeding his flock scripturally and spiritually.
He ordered people to sit on the grass. Taking the five loaves of bread, blessed, broke and gave to the disciples and the disciples gave them to people (Matthew 14:19).
3. TEACHING IN THE PAN DE VIDA. (John 6:15-65)
In this miracle Jesus tells his disciples to give the crowd something to eat. Jesus knew that the disciples did not have the means to do and see the crowd with pity, because "they were like sheep without a shepherd." Jesus then says to Peter to feed his sheep. Ordained ministers who follow Christ commanded the apostles as they do by feeding his flock scripturally and spiritually.
He ordered people to sit on the grass. Taking the five loaves of bread, blessed, broke and gave to the disciples and the disciples gave them to people (Matthew 14:19).
4. Easter of Our Lord. Matthew 26:26-30, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20, 1 Corinthians 11:23:25.
In the upper division, our Lord institutes the memorial of his passion, death and resurrection. Using the ancient Passover meal, a celebration of liberation and salvation, Jesus confirms the alliance of their sacrifice. Taking the bread, which means the Messiah to come, and the third glass of wine, representing the blood of the Lamb of the Passover, Jesus said that these signs are fulfilled in him. Every Easter Mass is our food, our celebration of liberation and salvation that Jesus the Messiah and the Lamb of God, has won for us.
5. The road to Emmaus:
Luke 24:13-35 and Mark 16:12-13.
On the day of the resurrection Jesus joined two disciples walking to Emmaus. They do not recognize the Lord, "then Jesus told them:" How foolish you are, how you are slow to believe all that the prophets said! Jesus acted as if he was going to go beyond the city and begged him to stay. " He sat down to eat with them, took bread, and said the blessing, then broke the bread and gave it to them. Then his eyes opened up and recognized him, but he disappeared from sight. "Why did Jesus go away then? To demonstrate that remains with them in the consecrated bread that has just blessed. Jesus made his final act at the last supper and the first meal of the day rose from the dead an example of a supernatural faith. The two disciples, said: "It was not like a fire burning in us when we talked on the way and explained the scriptures to us? Both are explained below, they [the disciples] what had happened on the road, and how it has recognized the Lord when he broke the bread. "
When Jesus taught us to pray and told them: "Give us this day our bread supersubstantial." (Mt 6:11 Douay-Rheims Bible) God is Spirit and His Word (Jesus Christ) became flesh. The entire Bible is salvation through the sacrifice in order to reflect the ultimate and eternal sacrifice of Christ:
 Abel offered a lamb to God and later John the Baptist said, "This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."
 Abraham went to offer his only son faithfully, when an angel of God stopped him, God is always sacrificed a sheep.
 In the Passover of Moses had to sacrifice the lamb that was eaten with unleavened bread.
 Then the Israelites ate manna in the desert and do not recognize Moses said, "This is the bread which the Lord has given you to eat."
Christianity requires a supernatural faith fueled by "supersubstantial bread" (Mt 6:11 Douay-Rheims Bible) and not a mere human conviction.

By: acid tongue

acid tongue — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

canibals does that make?

By: Augustin

Augustin — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

John chapter 6 …. read a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to gain an understanding of something you know nothing about. The answer is too long to explain here.
And Catholics also understand Jesus died on the cross once and for all the sins of all men of all time. Your question, as stated, simply show your ignorance. A valid question if you're really looking for an answer. But it seems you are looking more for an argument. I will give an answer …. an argument, no.

By: Mila

Mila — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

In his memory, because to show that he died for the remission of our sins and we offer him. N about the wine I disagree (Leviticus 10:9-10, Leviticus 11:1-47, Deuteronomy 14:1-29, Proverbs 20:1,1 Timothy 4:3) And to say any of the through the New Testament books Matthew John came to Jesus when the soldier was stabbed in the blood and water.

By: AngelsFa

AngelsFa — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

Jesus said in Chpt. 6 after speaking to drink his blood and eat his body "These are spiritual things to say, the flesh profits nothing."
At the Last Supper, He said, "do this in remembrance of me."
Then broke the bread (not a round of welcome, which is what the pagans who baked in honor of the Queen of Heaven [see Isaiah])
He died once and for all …… not again and again ..

By: ELLABELL M

ELLABELL M — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

It's just a part of religion. The question should be … What is the clerics of all faiths to do with the money they receive every Sunday? Jesus did not wear a Rolex and driving a Mercedes Benz?

By: Spartacu

Spartacu — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

not only Catholics who do. Christians do it too. Christ instructed us to eat bread and drink wine in remembrance of him. We do this to remember the sacrifice he made for us. sacrifice and the pain he had for a world in which his name would be cursed by thousands of people after 2000 years.
the question is, why? Why would a perfect God sent his Son to die for his fallen creation?
and the answer is love

By: imacatho

imacatho — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

At the Last Supper, Jesus said, "Take this bread. It's my body. "Then he said:" Take this and drink. This is my blood. Do this in memory of me. "
Catholics believe this was the First Eucharist, that through some miracle the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
Catholics reenact the Last Supper at every Mass, where God, through the priest changes the bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
This is a great sacrament of thanksgiving and unity of Catholics.
With love in Christ.

By: fireball

fireball — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

I know theyre symbols of what really happened … they are Christians, though .. im going to the communion of tomorrow

By: Daver

Daver — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000

The Eucharist makes present Jesus' An Eternal Sacrifice, not only a symbolic Memorial
Gen. 14:18 - remember that Melchizedek the sacramental bread and wine offered by announcing the re-presentation of Jesus offers.
Luke 22:19, 1 Cor. 11:24-25 - the translation of Jesus' words of consecration is "so anamnasin tout poieite Eman. Jesus literally said "offer this sacrifice as my memory." The word "poiein" (do) refers to offering a sacrifice (see, for example, Exodus 29:38-39, where God uses the same word - poieseis - in connection with the slaughter of lambs on the altar). The word "anamnesis" (remembrance) also refers to a sacrifice that is really or actually made present in time by the power of God, as God is reminded of the activity (see, eg, Heb. 10 3, No. 10.: 10). It is not only a memorial of a past event, but a past event made present in time.
In other words, the "sacrifice" is the "memorial" or "reminder." If the Eucharist were not slaughtered, Luke would have used the word "mnemosunon" (the word used to describe a monument nonsacrificial . See, eg, Matt. 26:13, Mark 14:9, and especially acts 10:4). Therefore, there are two monuments, a sacrificial (which Jesus instituted), and not a sacrifice.
Lev. 24:7 - the word "memory" in Hebrew in the sense of sacrifice is "azkarah" really means to do this (see Lev. 2:2,9,16, 5:12, 6:5, No. 5 : 26 where "azkarah" refers to the sacrifices that are offered today and, therefore, in this time). Jesus' instruction to offer the bread and wine (which he has changed his body and blood) as a "memorial offering" demonstrates that the offer of his body and blood is made present in time and again.
Num 10:10 - In this verse, "memory" refers to a sacrifice, not just a symbolic one. So Jesus' offer to the monument "in remembrance" of him shows that the memory is, indeed, offers a sacrifice currently offered. This is a representation of the real sacrifice is made present in time. It is as if the curtain of history is drawn and Calvary is made present to us.
Mal. 1:10-11 - Jesus' command to his apostles to offer his sacrifice in memory of the bread and wine become his body and blood fulfills the prophecy that God reject the Jewish sacrifices and receive a pure sacrifice offered in each place. This cigar is the sacrifice of Christ sacramentally re-presented from sunrise until placed at each place, as Malachi prophesied.
Heb. 9:23 - this verse, the author writes that the Old Testament sacrifices were only copies of the heavenly things, but now heaven has better "sacrifices" they. Why heavenly sacrifice called "sacrifices" in the plural? Jesus died once. This is because, while Christ's sacrifice is transcendent in heaven, for it touches the earth and is sacramentally re-presented again and again from sunrise until sunset throughout the world by the priests of the Church of Christ. This is because every moment that God is present in its immediacy, and when we remember the sacrifice we offer to God, we ask God to make the sacrifice that is eternally present it to us. Jesus' sacrifice also transcends time and space, as was the sacrifice of God himself.
Heb. 9:23 - the Eucharistic sacrifice also fulfills Jer. 33:18 that His kingdom will consist of a sacrifice of the priesthood forever, and fulfills Zech. 9:15 that the sons of Zion shall drink blood like wine and be saved.
Heb. 13:15 - this "sacrifice of praise" refers to the actual sacrifice or "all" the offer of Christ, like the Old Testament, the entire offer, it must be consumed. See, eg, Lev. 7:12-15, 22:29-30 which also refer to the "sacrifice of praise" in connection with the animals that had to be eaten after being sacrificed.
1 Peter 2:5-6 - Peter says that we, as priests offering "sacrifices" to God through Jesus, and that connects these sacrifices to Zion where the Eucharist was established. These relate to the sacrifices of one eternal Eucharistic sacrifice of Christ offered in every place around the world.
Rom. 12:1 - some Protestants argue that the Eucharist is not really Christ's sacrifice, but offering a symbolic, because the Lord is not the blood (Hebrews 9:22). However, Paul teaches us to introduce ourselves as a "living sacrifice" to God. This verse demonstrates that not all sacrifices are bloody and result in death (for example see the wave offerings of Aaron in Num. 8:11,13,15,21 were sacrifices unbloody). The Eucharistic sacrifice is unbloody and lifegiving, the supreme sacrament of Christ and the wave offering, is mysteriously present in a sacramental, but real, however, the one eternal sacrifice of Christ. Moreover, our body can not be a holy sacrifice unless they are united with the sacrifice of Christ becomes present on the altar of the Holy Mass
1 Cor. 10:16 - "the cup of blessing" or Third cup makes present the paschal sacrifice of Christ, the Lamb who was slain.
1 Cor. 10:18 - Paul indicates that what is eaten from the altar has been sacrificed, and we become partners with the victim. What is offered by Catholic priests of the altar has been sacrificed, our Lord Jesus, the paschal lamb.
1 Cor. 10:20 - Paul further compares the sacrifices of pagans to the Eucharistic sacrifice - both are sacrifices, but an offering to God. This demonstrates that the memorial of Christ is offering a sacrifice.
1 Cor. 11:26 - Paul teaches that as often as you eat bread and drink the cup, which proclaim the death of the Lord. This means that the celebration of the Eucharist is to proclaim the Gospel.
1 Cor. 10:21 - Paul use the phrase "Lord's Table" on the celebration of the Eucharist is more evidence that the Eucharist is a sacrifice. The Jews always understood the phrase "table of the Lord" to refer to an altar of sacrifice. See, eg, Lev. 24:6, Ezek. 41:22, 44:16 and Malachi 1:7,12, where the phrase "table of the Lord" in these verses always refers to a sacrificial altar.
Heb. 13:10,15 - this earthly altar is used in the Mass to offer the Eucharistic sacrifice of praise to God through our eternal Priest, Jesus Christ.