Comments on: Stealing a Eucharistt should be considered a hate crime?

By: Shannon

Shannon — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:11 +0000

I, being a Catholic. . . a little biased here, I do not think that's considered a hate crime based on the fact that only meant to show his friends are curious, but I think it shows a serious lack of opinion on their side. To prepare for the first time they receive the Eucharist, you must go through about a year of Religious Education. For him to come and just take it that the holy bread, knowing fully what it means for Catholics, just seems so messy and incomprehensible to me. I think stealing a Eucharist (on the basis of everything I just said) should be a punishable offense. I think that whether or not it's a hate crime to vary from case to case (if it is based on the intention of harming him), because someone could very well have robbed their own chapel of Eucharistic adoration (a where to go and worship the Eucharist) in their basement. It would not make much sense to call a hate crime.

By: Sentinel (TRC)

Sentinel (TRC) — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:11 +0000

Only a Catholic would appreciate the magnitude of this serious crime, the student is terribly wrong with what he has done, I hope to achieve a short period of notoriety, but this will be short-lived, more importantly, the desecration of their sacred host is inexcusable, and indeed a grave sin.
His point that the money spent for religious studies is not an excuse for what he has done, there are many other forms of protest that do not desecrate the Body and Blood of Christ in Holy Communion.
His weak excuse that he wanted to show another student was nothing but lies, as he does not know what he wants, who later requested a meeting with the office of Bishop of the Diocese to discuss the policy of physical force, so what is really after?
If this had happened at a Protestant university and a student would have spat on the Bible scandal, but because it is a Catholic issue is considered important and that nothing is open to novices arogant.
Fr.Gonzalez is showing remarkable restraint and patience with this individual, must be expelled outside the campus.
For non-Catholics the Eucharist is merely a symbol that is in stark contradiction to the Scriptures;
"I am the bread of life"
"For my flesh is real food and my blood is true drink.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. "
(John 6: 55-56)
The Jews quarrel among themselves, saying:
"How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?"
Jesus said to them:
John 6: 52-54
"Amen, amen, I say:
Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man
and drink his blood, you have no life in you. "
John 6:55-56
"He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood
has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is true drink.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood
abideth in me and I in him. "
John 6:57
"As the Father who sent me has life
and my life by the Father,
so the person who feeds on me will have life for me. "
John 6:60
So many of his disciples who were listening said,
"This is hard, it can accept this?"
John 6:64
"But some of you who do not believe."
Jesus knew from the outset that they do not believe
and betray it.
John 6:66
As a result, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life
and no longer accompanied him.
Jesus then said to the Twelve,
"Do you also want to leave?"
John 6:67-69
Simon Peter answered him,
"Master, to whom shall we go?
You have the words of eternal life.
We have come to believe and are convinced
that you are the Holy One of God. "
Luke 24:30-31)
"And it happened that, while he was with them at the table,
he took bread, said the blessing, broke it and gave it to them.
With that their eyes were opened and acknowledged,
but he disappeared from sight. "
And it should finish it, who eat this bread and drink this cup of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord "[1 Cor 11:27] …

By: Alex H

Alex H — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:11 +0000

No.

By: neil s

neil s — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

Again, ridiculous beliefs deserve no respect. Hate crimes have to be against something worthy of respect.
edit: sounds like a return to the days of "host desecration" accusations. Anyone who believes that a grain of wafers has become about 2000 years old, a carpenter should be institutionalized body.

By: socratic

socratic — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

1000000% SI.
Catholics believe the Eucharist is the same God - who should dare to kidnap our God, His Holy Church? * * This is the last in sacrilege. In the Middle Ages, the secular government would have been sentenced to death for something like this. The Eucharist is not something to be taken lightly - he is God himself. There is no excuse for that. The Eucharist can and should be treated with respect.

By: Pierce

Pierce — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

Wait! Who was committing hate crimes. It is so obvious that the guys sending death threats over a mouthful of cookies that are committing hate crimes. What happens when the priest Munchi in the middle of the night and start snacking on cookies or wine runs out and starts to drink blood to get drunk? Which is also a hate crime?

By: Mediocre Deity

Mediocre Deity — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

That is crazy. I went to Catholic school for children 8 years and always spitting and paste it in the bank or something. Yes, it's disrespect for religion, but the thing is, KIDS DO STUPID THINGS. It does not sound like he meant nothing by it.
Furthermore, it is not "stealing" if you gave him one and chose to do rather than eat it.

By: frenchla

frenchla — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

What horrible things have been said here about something that is so sacred to Catholics! This is an act unworthy of a Catholic. Should at least apologize for being so disrespectful to our Lord.

By: Free Thinker A.R.T. †††

Free Thinker A.R.T. ††† — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

However much I disagree with hate crimes
(I think all crimes should be tried without skin color or other factors into account)
I agree that, if we have hate crimes, this should be one of them
If not, although the kidnapping?

By: John S

John S — Wed, 27 May 2009 05:28:10 +0000

lol wtf dude. seen that any Catholic to do that killing. I am not a practicing Catholic, so do not hurt anyone.