Comments on: Why are Catholic lay people denied communion wine?

By: Gyrine77

Gyrine77 — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

They did this for the same reasons that prohibited the laity have a Bible and gave their sermons in Latin only, none of the laity understood. They want absolute control over all those who claim to be Catholics. This was during the dark and that is what caused the darkness.
When Luther nailed the wrong deeds of the church to the church door in the darkness began to see a little light. When, in 1611, was published in the English Bible, the darkness disappeared.

By: skepsis

skepsis — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

I think it was a combination of fever and concern about a growing sense of the indignity of the common people to approach the sacred species. The bread was simpler to administer than the wine, it was the kind of choice and declaired sufficient for full reception of the Eucharist. (Not all that many lay people were released anyway in those days. They preferred to worship the Eucharist from afar.) This policy continued until the reforms of Vatican II in 1965.

By: MumOf4

MumOf4 — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

I do not understand that this question is coming from. I'm not Catholic, but I attended a Catholic church in the meeting at which all members of both laity involved bread and wine. I do not know the history of the Catholic Church, but it is clear that the Catholic laity today are part of the two Sacraments.
EDIT: Hmmm … korban skepsis sounds like and have your answer. Interesting.

By: Max Marie, OSF

Max Marie, OSF — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

First you have to understand what Catholics believe about transubstantiation. During the Mass, the consecrated host becomes the body and blood. Both the bread and wine.
Secondly, a number of heresies happening at that time. Including the abuse of the sacraments. The whole reason for this advice was to put an end to this abuse.
You can search the full text papalencyclicals.com
Once everything is in order, then things continue like this. We are part of bread and wine.
PS: Gyrine, prohibit anyone from reading the Bible. The first letter in every English Bible, the Douay Rheims, an indulgence to everyday reading.
What was condemned was self-interpretation. We average Joes are not Bible scholars. The interpretation is for those who have studied. Also, the mass is said in latin, it is a sacred language. Did you know that there are two types? Norma Latin America and the Church - that is, the Latin of the Church.

By: Dr.Why

Dr.Why — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

different times different standards. the laity are invited to participate in the consumption of the blood of Jesus in a Mass every Sunday, even in some newspapers for the masses "

By: Jeff S

Jeff S — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

Its as if you've never been a Catholic mass before. You know that the whole congregation is in line for wine? those are not priests.
i do not usually drink the wine because the wine is gross. so if someone dumped again? I know I always did ….

By: korban

korban — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

Vatican II said that the Eucharistic bread, the figure of flesh and blood, so no need for both.
Some would say this was the beginning of the great apostasy in the church.

By: kidnapped by mango milkshakes

kidnapped by mango milkshakes — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

um, the laity are offered the wine during mass.
if that is true, then it probably has changed over the Council of Trent or something. but the sources?

By: CTTM goes crazy!

CTTM goes crazy! — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

The whole world has misunderstood your question and I apologizeze on their behalf. I understand your question and I have the right Skepsis.

By: Dogma

Dogma — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:18:06 +0000

I always came.
I know now nothing about Catholicism. Thanks for clearing that up for me.