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Why when it comes to Mary, Catholic Leaders Made up sort of thing?

"With Mary, God gives - outside their own good taste - all of his grace to Mary."
  You will not find that verse in the Bible anywhere. However, using this as saying or writing something, when in fact, never mentioned by any of the apostles. And it must be almost a blasphemy because it says that God gives and God never said it granted all his grace.
  So why not do things like this, Mary?
  2008 Year of St. Paul. :)

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21 comments for “Why when it comes to Mary, Catholic Leaders Made up sort of thing?”


  1. King James Bible says:

    The Catholic Church likes to play God.They decide when I get called up baby.they decide some rituals at the age of 13.They also give a new name.They want to be called "Father", and ….. …

  2. Dan says:

    It's in the Bible.
      Can be found in the greeting of the angel to Mary in Luke 1:28: "Hail full of grace, the Lord is with you." The phrase "full of grace" is a translation from the Greek word kecharitomene. This word is the good name of the person being addressed by the angel, and therefore expresses a characteristic quality of Mary. Kecharitomene is a perfect passive participle charitoo, meaning "to fill or endow with grace." Since this term is the perfect time, indicates a perfection of grace that is intensive and extensive. This means you enjoy the grace of Mary was not a result of the visit of the angel, not only as a "full" or strong or complete as possible at a given moment, but extends to their entire life, from conception onwards. She was in a state of sanctifying grace from the first moment of its existence has been called "full of grace."

  3. Jae G says:

    I will keep this brief. lost in translation. their understanding of the Bible is limited by a translation of a translation. This is why sola scriptura is a heresy. see the fruit of sola scriptura. more than 20,000 Protestant churches … each with its own "correct" interpretation of the Bible.

  4. gismoII says:

    Matthew 16, 18-19 gives authority to the Catholic Church to form all doctrines and dogmas and infallible divine revelation. This means you can never be changed by the Catholic Church, regardless of criticism or public pressure. God gives different gifts to each of us, but the same Spirit is behind them all. The foot and hand do not complain of being a foot or a hand and that all parties are the glory of the body. Different people have different gifts to your purpose in glorifying God.

  5. tebone03 says:

    Mary was "full of grace" in the sense that it was full of grace in terms of its design has been born without sin, to give birth to Jesus Christ. Mary was born without sin. Due to their daily decisions, which remained without sin.
      As we know from early Christian writings, the Apostle Luke the Evangelist personally knew the Virgin Mary and based several chapters of his Gospel in their memories. Even quoted Her exact words several times. He was a doctor and an artist, and his affection for her, he painted his portrait, icon painters who later made copies.

  6. Rod B says:

    What Christians are not their own "scripture"? "The Bible says this, the Bible says."
      Catholics are Christians probably for fear of being misogynist and you and / or its bastardized brand of Christianity is the most anti-women of all I've ever seen.

  7. That Guy Drew (Renatus) says:

    Click the link below. Read at least the first four pages. What is mentioned in the Bible (especially Luke 1 and 2) even if you missed it completely. No matter if you agree with it or not. No matter whether you understand it or not. It's there. It is all over the place. Do not you notice something different about how the angel greets Mary Luke 1? The Visitation is the only example in the Bible can not think of an angel in that visits to someone without that person falls on his face and having to be told no fear''.'' It seems that kind of unusual for you? http://www.mariology.com/content/view/12

  8. ♥allecat♥ †EWTN† says:

    Are you sure that you have not done their own religion, according to Paul rather than Jesus? See Lucas, find where it says that Mary is full of grace. Mary would not have without Jesus and without Jesus, you would not have his hero Paul ………..

  9. daljack -a girl says:

    Some things are not in the Bible.
      Catholics, Greeks, Anglicans and others ….. all believe Mary is honored as the Mother of Jesus (God )…. and in her eyes, she is very special.
      That's how come …. if you do not believe or understand that …. forward.

  10. Aleria says:

    There is enough that is not in the Bible. You can not just go by the Bible, is really unBiblical.
      And yes, the grace of God was given to Mary "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee."
      Luke 1:28 - "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you." These are the words spoken by God and given to us by the angel Gabriel (who is a messenger of God). Therefore, when Catholics recite this verse while praying the Rosary, are uttering the words of God.
      Luke 1:28 - Also, the phrase "full of grace" is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene. This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of the grace of a past event. Mary is not only "heavily favored". She has been perfected in God's grace. "Full of Grace" is only used to describe a person - Jesus Christ in John 1:14.
      Luke 1:38 - Mary fiat is "let them do to me according to your word." Mary is the perfect model of faith in God and is worthy of our veneration.
      Luke 1:42 - "Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus." The phrase "blessed among women who are" really means "you are most blessed of all women" . A circumlocution is used because there is no superlative in the Greek language. Note also that Elizabeth praises Mary first, and then Jesus. This is hyperdulia (Latvia, but is not the worship owed to God). We can also go through Mary to praise Jesus. Finally, Catholics repeat these divinely inspired words of Elizabeth in the Rosary.
      Luke 1:43 - Elizabeth the use of "Mother of my Lord" (in Hebrew, Elizabeth used "Adonai" which means Lord God) is the equivalent of "Holy Mary, Mother of God" that Catholics pray in the Rosary. The formula is simple: Jesus is a divine person, and this person is God. Mary is the mother of Jesus, so Mary is the Mother of God (Mary is not only the Mother of Jesus' human nature - mothers are the mothers of the people, not nature).
      ———————————
      Added: <<so gismo, when the Catholic Church was responsible for sales indulgences, God that?>>
      The Church does not agree with the sale of indulgences. Some Catholic churches (little c) no, but not the Church. The Church actually tried to prevent the sale of indulgences, which was wrong, but not have telephone and TV then to disseminate the decree in a matter of minutes. He had to be sent through the horse and caravan, so they're talking about a matter of weeks to months to get word to do otherwise.
      Therefore, you have a church that is doing this, is reportedly taking a few weeks to report to arrive at the Vatican, and then a few more weeks to return with a decree to stop the sale of indulgences.

  11. Harvest Angel of Wisdom says:

    For more answers, consider asking around this site and … http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay ….

  12. Gen. Stiggo says:

    They were following in the lead, when Paul gave up everything, I guess.

  13. SUE says:

    Catholic leaders did things? Really? * GASP *

  14. Fireball says:

    you know your thoughts …
      ALL PLEASE DO NOT ask questions that force us to read minds? singing

  15. Daver says:

    Mary - the Immaculate Ark of the New Partnership
      Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of pure gold of God's Word. Mary is the Ark of the New Partnership and is the most pure vessel of God's Word made flesh.
      2 Sam. 6:7 - the ship is so holy and pure that touched him Uzzah when the Lord killed him. This shows us that the ship is undefiled. Mary, the Ark of the New Covenant is even more immaculate and undefiled, free from original sin from God to enable him to carry His eternal Word in her womb.
      1 Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account Uzzah and the Ark of God to dwell within the ship Mary, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God let the finger of Satan touches his Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.
      1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the great reverence of the Jews had the ship - veneration, costumes, songs, harp, lira, cymbals, trumpets.
      Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Lucas conspicuous in the comparison between Mary and the Ark of Samuel described highlights the reality of Mary as the immaculate and undefiled Ark of the New Partnership. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) and left / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the New Ark of the Covenant.
      Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David before jumping for joy Mary / Ark then must jump for joy before Mary, the Immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
      Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the mother and the Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a sacred privilege. Our Mother would come to us and leads us to Jesus.
      Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Maria / the ship was in the house for about three months.
      Rev 11:19 - at this moment in history, the Ark of the Old Covenant was not seen for six centuries (see 2 macc. 2:7), and now is finally seen in heaven. The Jewish people would have been absolutely amazed by this. However, John immediately passes this fact and describes the "woman" clothed with the sun in Rev. 12:1. John is emphasizing that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and that, like the old chest, is now worthy of veneration and praise. Also remember that Rev. 11:19 and Rev. 12:1 are tied together, because there is no chapter and verse at the time these texts were written.
      Rev 12:1 - the "woman" that John is describing is Mary, the Ark of the New Partnership, with the moon under her feet and her head a crown of twelve stars. Just as the moon reflects light from the sun, so Mary, with the moon under her feet, reflects the glory of the Sun of Justice, Jesus Christ.
      Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary is the offspring of those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus. This shows, as Catholics have always believed that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.
      Rev. 12:2 - Some Protestants argue that because women had pains, was a woman of sin. However, Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. Symbolism containing varied and multiple meanings of women (Mary, the Church and Israel). Birth pangs describe the birth of Mary and the Church was formed in the offspring of Christ. Mary did not birth pangs in the delivery of his only Son Jesus.
      Isaiah 66:7 - for example, see Isaiah prophesies that before she (Mary) was in labor she gave birth before her pain came to her she gave birth to a son (Jesus). This is a prophecy of the virgin birth to Mary of Jesus Christ.
      Gal 4:19 - Paul also described their pain as the birth pangs in the formation of the disciples of Christ. Birth pangs describe the formation in Christ.
      Rom. 8:22 - well, Paul says the whole creation has been groaning in labor before the coming of Christ. We are all under pain of childbirth because we are reborn in Christ.
      Jer. 13:21 - Jeremiah describes the birth pangs of Israel, as a woman at work. Birth pangs are often used metaphorically in Scripture.
      Os. 13:12-13 - Ephraim travailing also described as the birth of their sins. Once again, the pains of childbirth are used metaphorically.
      Micah 4:9-10 - Micah also describes Jerusalem as seized by the pains of childbirth as a woman at work.
      Rev. 12:13-16 - in these verses, we see that even the devil seeks to destroy the woman, even after the Savior has been born. This shows Mary is a danger to the devil, even after the birth of Christ. This is because God has given him the power to intercede for us, and we must rely on your help in our spiritual life.

  16. Jeme says:

    I'm non-denominational Full Gospel. I do not know why Catholics do what they do is, however, believe that Mary had a special place in the heart of God - like David.
      Which was visited by the Holy Spirit? Who was the first person to bring "the living Word" (Now we do, but Mary was chosen by God to bring the Word to change the hearts of men to the end of time.)
      Men and women get pregnant off, but God is not a man. I can not believe that God does not personally minister to youth who would be responsible for the upbringing of the King of Kings: teaching him the love and understanding in dealing with humankind since the day he was born until he became a man.
      Do knot know what Catholics say about Mary, I only know that God chose to bring our Lord and Savior.
      [edit]
      I do not believe in the cult of Mary and prayer to his (or holy to the case), because Jesus is the only path to salvation and the Holy Spirit keeps us connected with God and Christ Jesus. The respect that their God did and what Jesus did, but as a mortal woman.
      Sometimes the traditions of men become tenants of the faith and / or doctrine. * I have read that the Pope said the Catholic Church (and Europe) should be "re-evangelization." Maybe some things will change.
      I feel the same all over the body of Christ in many ways. All we have to return to "basics".
      In his first public miracle at the beginning of Jesus public ministry, Mary said to the servants at the wedding of Cana, "Whatever you say, do it." [John 2:5]
      Should not we all? (Nothing to add, and taking anything away?)
      ______
      * Paraphrased - not an exact quote.
      x

  17. Ghost Shrimp Fan says:

    Because the majority of things that was composed of priests and things back in the day that had the nobility and common people. And they were teaching the common people do not want too much "than themselves." So he could not let go pray directly to God or Jesus like the nobility, and therefore decided to let farmers have the "Virgin Mary" as an intermediary between them. So I made up all this stuff about how it was almost as good as God, so that farmers and community members can pray with her and the nobility and the priests can pray directly to God and the peasants and commoners not too uppity and priests and religious leaders who have the monopoly on talking with God and commoners can be kept in place and keep raking in the gold to pay for penance and stuff.

  18. Hruth says:

    Which in this case is different from everything else in religion?
      ALL of the religion, every religion is totally false, a fallacy, fairytale, lies, deceit, deception …
      Once you realize this you will realize the truth.

  19. Bob T says:

    Many simple doctrines and teachings of Jesus Christ has been perverted and changed little after the Apostles were gone. Acts 1:1-2 tells us what its main function was as follows: for the revelation of the whole church. With the image of the Apostles, some bishops "Viedeň" of authority over other bishops - many of the simple truths were changed and the original church was lost, including the divine authority of the priesthood. Mariolatry and Mariandry (sp?) Were two of the most heinous doctrines appeared. (one way, the cult of Mary, the other means of Mary was immaculately conceived - for the atrocious doctrine that man is born in sin) the name of Luther only 95 different changes, but there are many more.

  20. Bipolar Birdy says:

    He was only "full of grace" for a short time in exercising our Savior without sin, because He was sinless. She herself was a sinner like everyone else.

  21. Secular Kitteh says:

    All religions are made up things.



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