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		<title>By: cristoig</title>
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		<description>She remained a virgin throughout her life. God bless!   In Christ   Fr Joseph</description>
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  In Christ<br />
  Fr Joseph</p>
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		<title>By: tebone03</title>
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		<description>Having been enlightened by an angel in a dream related to pregnancy, and perhaps even more so in relation to the words of the Archangel Gabriel to Mary at her Annunciation, Joseph knew that God had made himself as a husband in relation to Mary. She forbids him forever, and for the sake of the child and Mary can only live with her in a totally chaste relationship.   Joseph celibate as a caregiver   As a recipient of the great revelation of what was conceived in the womb of Mary, his betrothed, is the Holy Spirit and the child to be born to save his people from their sins, surely he knew that Joseph was called to care Mary and her Son, the Messiah, for the rest of his life, so the angel told him to take Mary as his wife.   We can reasonably assume that Mary now shares with him all that the Archangel Gabriel told him. Nothing less than &#34;the Son of God&#34; (Lk 1:35) was entrusted to their care under the shelter of his humble home, now converted into the Holy of Holies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been enlightened by an angel in a dream related to pregnancy, and perhaps even more so in relation to the words of the Archangel Gabriel to Mary at her Annunciation, Joseph knew that God had made himself as a husband in relation to Mary. She forbids him forever, and for the sake of the child and Mary can only live with her in a totally chaste relationship.<br />
  Joseph celibate as a caregiver<br />
  As a recipient of the great revelation of what was conceived in the womb of Mary, his betrothed, is the Holy Spirit and the child to be born to save his people from their sins, surely he knew that Joseph was called to care Mary and her Son, the Messiah, for the rest of his life, so the angel told him to take Mary as his wife.<br />
  We can reasonably assume that Mary now shares with him all that the Archangel Gabriel told him. Nothing less than &quot;the Son of God&quot; (Lk 1:35) was entrusted to their care under the shelter of his humble home, now converted into the Holy of Holies.</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible does not say anything with certainty what happened between them. Other than the Bible, the only writing of the Catholic Church in relation to Joseph (I know) is that of his death (and the authenticity of which is debated among scholars).   The Catholic Church holds that Mary had no other children after Jesus and remained a virgin throughout her life. The Bible supports this, because when Jesus was on the cross he sent Juan (one of his disciples who was not his blood brother) for the care of his mother. This would be one of his kinsmen had been made, so obviously there was no one left to take care of José María because not all (obviously already dead or the gospels would have mentioned there, and John is not should have in your house of Mary).   In addition, Joseph is strangely absent from most of the Gospels, Mary is represented as itself in several places with Jesus (Joseph makes the picture all together). This suggests that Joseph may have died at the time of Jesus began his ministry. According to Jewish law, Mary would have had to remain a virgin after Joseph died. Also, according to Bible scholars, the so-called &#34;Brothers of Jesus&#39; cousins were probably only because there was no word for&#34; cousin &#34;in Aramaic and the Aramaic word for&#34; brother &#34;is commonly used to designate &#39;cousin &#39;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible does not say anything with certainty what happened between them. Other than the Bible, the only writing of the Catholic Church in relation to Joseph (I know) is that of his death (and the authenticity of which is debated among scholars).<br />
  The Catholic Church holds that Mary had no other children after Jesus and remained a virgin throughout her life. The Bible supports this, because when Jesus was on the cross he sent Juan (one of his disciples who was not his blood brother) for the care of his mother. This would be one of his kinsmen had been made, so obviously there was no one left to take care of José María because not all (obviously already dead or the gospels would have mentioned there, and John is not should have in your house of Mary).<br />
  In addition, Joseph is strangely absent from most of the Gospels, Mary is represented as itself in several places with Jesus (Joseph makes the picture all together). This suggests that Joseph may have died at the time of Jesus began his ministry. According to Jewish law, Mary would have had to remain a virgin after Joseph died. Also, according to Bible scholars, the so-called &quot;Brothers of Jesus&#39; cousins were probably only because there was no word for&quot; cousin &quot;in Aramaic and the Aramaic word for&quot; brother &quot;is commonly used to designate &#39;cousin &#39;.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg M</dc:creator>
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		<description>&#34;Until she was a child: the evangelist relates to emphasize that Joseph was not responsible for the conception of Jesus. The Greek word translated &#34;to&#34; does not imply normal civilian conduct after the birth of Jesus, nor exclude them. &#34;Http: / / www.usccb.org / nab / bible / Matthew / m ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Until she was a child: the evangelist relates to emphasize that Joseph was not responsible for the conception of Jesus. The Greek word translated &quot;to&quot; does not imply normal civilian conduct after the birth of Jesus, nor exclude them. &quot;Http: / / <a href="http://www.usccb.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.usccb.org</a> / nab / bible / Matthew / m &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Lambert next American Idol!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Lambert next American Idol!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary and Joseph never did anything together buddy.So not to think he lost his virginity of Mary after Jesus was born because they do not always! I find it offensive when people think that Mary was not really a virgin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary and Joseph never did anything together buddy.So not to think he lost his virginity of Mary after Jesus was born because they do not always! I find it offensive when people think that Mary was not really a virgin.</p>
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		<title>By: catholic</title>
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		<dc:creator>catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of places for you look.http: / / forums.catholic.com / showthread.ph ... http:/ / www.catholic.com / library / Mary_Eve ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of places for you look.http: / / forums.catholic.com / showthread.ph &#8230; http:/ / <a href="http://www.catholic.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholic.com</a> / library / Mary_Eve &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pugjw989</title>
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		<dc:creator>pugjw989</dc:creator>
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		<description>When Jesus was born, Joseph and Mary had more children including Jesus ... &#39;half brothers and sisters .. siblings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jesus was born, Joseph and Mary had more children including Jesus &#8230; &#39;half brothers and sisters .. siblings.</p>
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		<title>By: Soul of Wit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soul of Wit</dc:creator>
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		<description>No sex, if that&#39;s what your trying to get out of thin air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No sex, if that&#39;s what your trying to get out of thin air.</p>
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		<title>By: Marysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marysia</dc:creator>
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		<description>so .... going to marry this woman is to have the Son of God .... which is just going to skip it? get!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so &#8230;. going to marry this woman is to have the Son of God &#8230;. which is just going to skip it? get!</p>
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		<title>By: firefox0</title>
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		<dc:creator>firefox0</dc:creator>
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		<description>The main sources of information about life in San Jose are the first chapters of our first and third Gospels, are also virtually the only credible source, since, while the patriarch of the holy life, as in many other points relating to the Savior of the story is left intact the doctrine canonical apocryphal literature is full of details, the dismissal of these works in the canon of holy books cast a strong suspicion about its contents, and, although he conceded that some of the facts recorded by them may be founded on trustworthy traditions, it is in most cases almost impossible to discern and filter these particles from the true story of fantasy with which they are associated. Among these apocryphal productions dealing more or less extensively with some episodes of the life of San Jose can see the &#34;Gospel of James,&#34; the &#34;Pseudo-Matthew,&#34; the &#34;Gospel of the Nativity of the Virgin Mary&#34; The &#34;History of Joseph the carpenter,&#34; and &#34;Life of the Virgin and the death of Joseph.&#34;   Genealogy   San Mateo (1:16) called San José, the son of Jacob, according to Luke (3:23), Heli was his father. This is not the place to recite the many and various activities to address the most pressing questions arising from differences between the two genealogies, nor is it necessary to point out the explanation that best meets the requirements of the problem (see genealogy of Christ), just remind the reader that, contrary to what was once advocated, most modern writers readily admit that in both documents we possess the genealogy of Joseph, and it is very possible to reconcile their data.   Marriage   It is probably at Nazareth that Joseph and married her fiancé was going to be the Mother of God. When the marriage took place, either before or after the Incarnation, it is not easy to solve, and at this point the masters of exegesis have at all times the variance. Most commentators, following the footsteps of St. Thomas, understand that at the time of the Annunciation, the Virgin was only affianced to Joseph, as St. Thomas notices, this interpretation suits better all the evangelical data.   It will not be without interest to recall here, but are unreliable, the long history of St. Joseph in marriage contained in the apocryphal writing. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman named Melcher Escha or by some, Salome by others, who lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James ( the least, &#34;the Lord&#39;s brother&#34;). One year after the death of his wife, as announced by the priests of Judea who want to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went to Jerusalem among the candidates, a miracle of God that the election manifesto had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as the styles of St. Jerome, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for example, Rafael &#34;Espousals of the Virgin&#34;), are void of authority, However, acquired in the course of ages some popularity in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the known difficulties associated with the words in the Gospel of &#34;brothers of the Lord&#34;, of whom also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as the presence of the ancient tradition works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.   The Nativity and the Flight into Egypt   A few months later, it was time for Joseph and Mary go to Bethlehem to be registered in accordance with the decree issued by Caesar Augustus: a new source of anxiety for Joseph, for &#34;their days were, to be handed &#34;and&#34; there was no place for them in the inn (Luke 2:1-7). What must have been thinking of the holy man at the birth of the Savior, the coming of the shepherds and the wise, and the events that occurred at the time of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple, we can only guess ; San Lucas says he was just &#34;thinking about things that are spoken in relation to him&#34; (2:33). New tests were soon to follow. The news that a king of the Jews was born, but could not turn into the evil heart of the old and bloody tyrant, Herod, the fire of jealousy. Again &#34;an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the child and his mother, and fly to Egypt, and be there until I tell you&#34; (Matthew 2:13) .   Return to Nazareth   The summons to return to Palestine came only after a few years, and the Holy Family settled again at Nazareth. San Jose was henceforth the simple and monotonous life of a humble Jew, supporting himself and his family for his work, and faithful to the religious practices commanded by the Act or observed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main sources of information about life in San Jose are the first chapters of our first and third Gospels, are also virtually the only credible source, since, while the patriarch of the holy life, as in many other points relating to the Savior of the story is left intact the doctrine canonical apocryphal literature is full of details, the dismissal of these works in the canon of holy books cast a strong suspicion about its contents, and, although he conceded that some of the facts recorded by them may be founded on trustworthy traditions, it is in most cases almost impossible to discern and filter these particles from the true story of fantasy with which they are associated. Among these apocryphal productions dealing more or less extensively with some episodes of the life of San Jose can see the &quot;Gospel of James,&quot; the &quot;Pseudo-Matthew,&quot; the &quot;Gospel of the Nativity of the Virgin Mary&quot; The &quot;History of Joseph the carpenter,&quot; and &quot;Life of the Virgin and the death of Joseph.&quot;<br />
  Genealogy<br />
  San Mateo (1:16) called San José, the son of Jacob, according to Luke (3:23), Heli was his father. This is not the place to recite the many and various activities to address the most pressing questions arising from differences between the two genealogies, nor is it necessary to point out the explanation that best meets the requirements of the problem (see genealogy of Christ), just remind the reader that, contrary to what was once advocated, most modern writers readily admit that in both documents we possess the genealogy of Joseph, and it is very possible to reconcile their data.<br />
  Marriage<br />
  It is probably at Nazareth that Joseph and married her fiancé was going to be the Mother of God. When the marriage took place, either before or after the Incarnation, it is not easy to solve, and at this point the masters of exegesis have at all times the variance. Most commentators, following the footsteps of St. Thomas, understand that at the time of the Annunciation, the Virgin was only affianced to Joseph, as St. Thomas notices, this interpretation suits better all the evangelical data.<br />
  It will not be without interest to recall here, but are unreliable, the long history of St. Joseph in marriage contained in the apocryphal writing. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman named Melcher Escha or by some, Salome by others, who lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James ( the least, &quot;the Lord&#39;s brother&quot;). One year after the death of his wife, as announced by the priests of Judea who want to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went to Jerusalem among the candidates, a miracle of God that the election manifesto had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as the styles of St. Jerome, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for example, Rafael &quot;Espousals of the Virgin&quot;), are void of authority, However, acquired in the course of ages some popularity in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the known difficulties associated with the words in the Gospel of &quot;brothers of the Lord&quot;, of whom also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as the presence of the ancient tradition works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.<br />
  The Nativity and the Flight into Egypt<br />
  A few months later, it was time for Joseph and Mary go to Bethlehem to be registered in accordance with the decree issued by Caesar Augustus: a new source of anxiety for Joseph, for &quot;their days were, to be handed &quot;and&quot; there was no place for them in the inn (Luke 2:1-7). What must have been thinking of the holy man at the birth of the Savior, the coming of the shepherds and the wise, and the events that occurred at the time of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple, we can only guess ; San Lucas says he was just &quot;thinking about things that are spoken in relation to him&quot; (2:33). New tests were soon to follow. The news that a king of the Jews was born, but could not turn into the evil heart of the old and bloody tyrant, Herod, the fire of jealousy. Again &quot;an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the child and his mother, and fly to Egypt, and be there until I tell you&quot; (Matthew 2:13) .<br />
  Return to Nazareth<br />
  The summons to return to Palestine came only after a few years, and the Holy Family settled again at Nazareth. San Jose was henceforth the simple and monotonous life of a humble Jew, supporting himself and his family for his work, and faithful to the religious practices commanded by the Act or observed</p>
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