Comments on: Catholics: If the Bible does say that Mary ascended into heaven?

By: Pangloss- Inebriated aye-aye

Pangloss- Inebriated aye-aye — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

* Cheers *
It is incredible that a former Catholic would be so ignorant about the Catholic faith.

By: Kevin S

Kevin S — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Now that it has discharged this burden of hate and vitriol in your system, you feel better?
Sorry for you who live their lives based solely on what is in the Bible. As if there is something wrong or bad or sinful automatically.
The shame that used to be idolaters. In general terms, are not Catholics. Who taught you that?

By: sparki77

sparki77 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Where in the Bible does not say you were born? What? There is in? So I guess that never was born.
Where it says that the apostle Paul was executed? What? Not in the Bible? So I think it was not. And he never died. Must be around here somewhere.
Fact of the matter is, there are certain things that have happened that are not recorded in Scripture, either because they occurred after the last book of the Bible was written, or because the whole world knew and did not make sense to waste paper writing down (you will note is the blue sky and the rain is made of water "are not in the Bible, either), or any number of other reasons.
The fact that the assumption of Mary into heaven is not in the Bible does not mean it happened. We know that the scenario is possible thanks to Enoch and Elijah. We have eyewitnesses to the assumption of Mary of the Apostles who took part in his death. We figure the apostles are reliable, so we believe. If you do not want to believe them, fine - nobody salvation depends on the assumption of Mary into heaven.
As for Mary being co-redemptrix, that's just a luxury for her title role in the salvation of everyone who was giving birth to Jesus. You will find in the Bible, in Matthew 1 and Luke 1 and 2.
The Bible says that Mary was fully redeemed from all sin in Luke 1:28. "Hail, Mary, you are the fullness of grace." An angel, a messenger of God said. We Catholics are used to believing what they say angels. If you do not want to believe the messenger of God, you are free to ignore it. But they say that is not in the Bible, because it is.
Praying means "ask" not cultured, and there is no prohibition in the Bible of someone asking anyone to intercede to God for them. That is what Catholics do, but our salvation does not depend on it. If you do not want, do not do it.
Worship - well, we've gone over this before, do not we? I will try again, just for the sake of old time. If I say, "Jesus loves me, I love my husband, my kids love me, and I love chocolate …" - all true, BTW - Do you think I am using the same kind of "love" , for each of these entities? Or do you immediately understand that the love I have for Jesus is not the same as the love I have for my husband, who is not the same as the love I have for my children, that is not the same as the love I have for the chocolate? You get there, right? So why not get when Catholics explain that Catholics have devotion to Mary is not the same thing as the devotion we have for Jesus? We do not consider her our savior or our God. It's different.
Could say that the worship of his TV, watching for hours as it, or you could say that the worship of the Bible, as the study and love and quote, but I only said that is not true. God judges a person's heart (which is in 2 Samuel), no external action, and that is what should matter to you.
The Bible does not say that Mary had no children other than Jesus or who never had sex with Joseph. So we're adding something to the Scriptures, making the claims. If you think the Bible says that Mary had sex and more children, why not publish the verse that says: "Joseph and Mary set up a child conceived …."? Answer - you can not because it is not biblical!

By: freetoth

freetoth — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Not just once, you have to scratch bible many times and interpreted differently to suit a lot of current beliefs of some Christians
A true Christian is only one true chrisitian and saved, if you look at the words of Jesus only (completely ignoring what historians have written in the Bible that contradict the words of Jesus.)
Not everyone who's in the Bible is God's word. Bible contains words of historians, writers, translators, literature, short stories, sermons and letters, real words, and many have lost their original meaning and context.
Jesus (pbuh) spoke Aramaic. No English or Greek or Latin or any other language. Let us be very clear on this subject. Where is the original Bible in Aramaic? There! First bible written centuries after Jesus by people who never met him. What exists today is the English translation of other ancient languages. Which contains errors and contradictions that the Bible contains today.
Imagine how one word in the current language of life "gay" has changed its meaning in just 50 years, which translated to something that happened hundreds of times, with the originals are nowhere.
The trinity is a doctrine about the year 325 AD, based partly on pagan, older triune gods. Not in the Bible unless you really stretch it to fit.
"Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" has been eliminated in the Revised Standard Version of 1952 and 1971 and in many other Bibles, as it was a big mistake that had invaded the Greek text according to the Doctors of Divinity of the Church.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia - 1967, VOL. XIV, page 299:
The formulation "one God in three Persons" was not solidly established, not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith before the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that first says that the title "The Trinitarian dogma. AMONG THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS, there was nothing remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.
Muslims love Jesus, their faith requires them to believe Jesus was a prophet of God and faith in the original message of Jesus massaya (peace be upon him) who said:
Jesus said:
A) Mark 12:29:
"Lord our God, the Lord is One"
B) Metthew: 26:39:
"It was a little farther and fell on his face and prayed"
Jesus prayed to one God
C) Matthew 4:10
"You worship the Lord your God and serve him only"
D) John 14:28 says —
"You heard that I said to you, I'm going away and I come back to you. If you loved me, that I rejoice in my way to the Father because the Father is greater than I am "
E) Jesus answered, If I honor, my honor is nothing: it is my Father I honoureth; those who say that he is your God:
John 8:54
F) But of that day and that hour no one knows, no, not the angels which are in heaven, nor the Son except the Father.
Mark 13:32
G) Most true, I say, the child can not do a single thing on their own, but only beholds the father doing.
John 5:19
H) And he said unto him, Why did you call me good? there is none good but one, namely God, but if you enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17
I) Jesus answered and said, My doctrine is not mine but his who sent me
John 7:16
J) Hosea 11:9 God says, "For I am God and not man."
Jesus said (John 4:24) "God is Spirit. (John 5:37) ". . . or have heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form "
God is a spirit. Spirits do not have flesh and blood.
John 4:24 God is Spirit: and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and feet, which is myself: handle me, and see for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as ye see me have.
Jesus was tempted by the devil, but God can be tempted:
(Luke 4:1-13) "Satan tempted Jesus for forty days" but in James 1:13 states: "… for God can not be tempted with evil … "
Blind belief is dangerous and destructive!. Bible tells us to try things.
(I Thessalonians 5:21): "Test all things, hold fast what is good."
Trinity was invented as a concept in Christianity, 200-300 years after Jesus, and that is as confused and divided the concept that Jesus preached.
You should not accept the word "son" literally. Word "son" was used in bible for general human beings and other prophets. "We are all children of father in heavens" indicates that the word "son" was used in different sense.
Matthew 5:9. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."
Exodus 4:22.
"And you (Moses) will say to Pharaoh, thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn."
The belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation is gurarenteed for believers of Jesus, and now actions do not have to fall in line with our faith, is clearly not what Jesus preached. Contradicts the interpretation and additions done by scribes / historians centuries after Jesus:
Matthew 5:20 For I say, unless his righteousness (His righteousness and right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, who never enter the kingdom of heaven.
It is not guaranteed heaven for anyone, this life is a test, and if it passes or not enter heaven.
Ex 16:4 Then the LORD said to Moses: Behold I will rain bread from heaven for you, and people will come and collect a portion of the day every day, which can prove whether or not they will walk in my instruction.
Jesus said, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. What bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. "(Matthew 16:19)
Matthew 3:2 and saying, Repent (think differently, change your mind, regretting your sins and changing your conduct), for the kingdom of heaven is near.
Romans 1:25 (New International Version)
Deuteronomy 24:26, "All men will be put to death for his own sin"
Matthew 25:46: "Then they go to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
James 2:26: "As the body without spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead"
Jesus, Moses, Muhammad (pbuh) all worship the same God, the God of Ibrahim. All prophets taught "the surrender of the will of God" which is the meaning of the word "Islam". Word "Christianity" did not exist at the time of Christ, but you will find Jesus teachings to be "surrender your will to God" in bible many times.
JAMES 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
Mohammad (peace be upon him) was also a messenger of God, who never claimed to be God, the same way Jesus or Moses never claimed to be God, or ever say worship me. Bible confirms the coming of another true prophet as:
"The Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and you remember everything you've said."
[Bible - John 14:26]
The teachings of the Church contradict the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and that is causing the confusion. If a sincere Christian who wants to follow Jesus, asks priests about trinity, the answer you get is "It's a mystery, is not clearly explained by Jesus," then again remember that Jesus said,
"I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where they always meet the Jews, and in secret I have said nothing "(John 18:20 (NKJ)).
There was no mystery in the message of Jesus, nothing secret. Will you accept the priests' so called "mystery of trinity" and forget clear commandments of Jesus?
If only true followers of Jesus who really likes to read the Bible in context, and studying the Koran, which will undoubtedly come to the conclusion that God is one, without any partners, and Jesus (pbuh) son of Mary (pbuh) is a messenger of God!
Muslims feel closer to the sincere Christians than to Jews, or the idol worshipers and atheists.
The Koran says clearly Surah.5: v 82: "Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who are Muslims (a) the Jews and the idolators. And you find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe those who say: '! We are Christians. This is because there are among them priests and monks (ie persons entirely devoted to the service of God, such as Muslims) and are not arrogant. "
Qur'an, revealed to Prophet Muhammad some 600 years after Jesus, (pbut) corrects the errors that crept (knowingly or unknowingly) in the message that Jesus brought. This book should be a very valuable both for Muslims and Christians
Indeed! He had already prophesied that people will worship him uselessly and believe not in the doctrines of God, but by men. (Matthew 15:9):
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Making all the men of the modern doctrines of Christianity: the Trinity, the divine paternity of Jesus, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Original Sin and Atonement.
The Holy Qur'an warns in Surah 5:73 and 74: "We blaspheme who say Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. But Christ said: O 'Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever joins other gods with Allah, Allah forbid Garden (ie Paradise) and the fire will be his abode. It makes for evil, not a help. "
"Surely they are disbelievers, those who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: But there is none who has the right to be worshiped but one God (ie Allah). And if you do not stop what they say, verily a grievous penalty to befall the disbelievers among them. "

By: imacatho

imacatho — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

+ Assumption into heaven (not climb) +
Catholics believe in the hypothesis of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven after his death.
John 19:26-27 says:
When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved it, told his mother, "Woman, behold your son." Then he said to the disciple: "Behold your mother." And from that hour the disciple (John) took her to his house.
The minutes of the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus in 431 CE indicate that four to six years after the death and resurrection of Jesus, John and Mary met to Ephesus, and for a short period of time was in the building of a section that is currently in the Church of the Virgin Mary today.
Later, John moved to the Virgin Mary to a house he had prepared for her in Bulbul Dagi (Bulbul Hill). He lived there until the end of his earthly life.
St. John of Damascus (PG, I, 96) later wrote:
St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon (451), released to the emperor and Marcia Pulcheria who desires to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the apostles, but his tomb , when opened, at the request of St. Thomas, was found empty, where the Apostles concluded that the body was taken to heaven.http: / / http://www.turktour.com/virgin_mary.htmlhttp://www . newadvent.org/cathen/02006b.h …
+ + Coredemptrix
This is not Catholic doctrine.
Immaculate Conception + +
When the angel Gabriel called Mary, "full of grace", as Maria Full of Grace.
When the angel Gabriel said: "The Lord is with you," the Lord was with her.
Mary was in a state of grace before she says "yes" to the angel of the issue and before the Holy Spirit came to her for a different purpose.
When Mary became a state of grace to begin?
Catholics that this state of grace was with Mary from her Immaculate Conception. This means that Mary was conceived in the normal way (not Jesus), but do not inherit original sin.
With God's grace and without the effects of original sin, we believe that Mary committed no sin at any time during their life.
God has prepared for his later role as the mother of Jesus.
Catholics celebrate this miracle on December 8 as the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 490 and following http://www.nccbuscc.org/catechism/text/p …
Santos + +
We share the view of Catholics in the Communion of Saints with many other Christians, including Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Episcopal and Methodist Churches.
The Communion of Saints is the belief that all saints are intimately related in the Body of Christ, a family. When it dies and goes to heaven, do not let this family.
Everyone in heaven or on their way to heaven are saints, you, me, my deceased grandmother, Mary, the mother of Jesus, Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II.
As part of this family, you can ask your family and friends living here on earth to pray for you. Or, you can also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, St. Andrew, or your deceased grandmother living in heaven to pray for you.
Prayer to the saints in heaven is simple communication, not worship.
Ask others to pray for you if your loved ones on Earth or your loved ones in heaven is always optional.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 946 et seq: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1s …
+ + The Blessed Virgin Mary
"Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee" (Luke 1:28)
"Blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb "(Luke 1:42).
The Hail Mary prayer simply recites passages from the Bible (the Word of God) and asks Mary to pray for us:
Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with you. (These are the words that the angel Gabriel said to Mary, a Bible quote.)
Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. (This is Mary's cousin Elizabeth's greeting, another biblical quotation.)
Santa Maria, (The angel Gabriel said he was full of grace and Elizabeth says he was blessed.)
Mother of God (the Bible says that Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, the Son of God)
Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. (A simple request to pray for us.)
Amen.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 2673 et seq: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt4s …
In Luke 1:48, Mary prophesied, "From now on all generations will call me blessed."
A question for Christians who take the Bible literally: Do you call Mary "blessed"? If not, why?
+ With love in Christ.

By: maguyver

maguyver — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Correct.
But do have savings Maria (born again) Who said it felt that it was Jesus and the Cenacle (Day of Pentecost) Mary is filled with the Holy Spirit and became a language Talker!
No, Mary is not the way to reach the Heavenly Father.
Jesus Christ rose from the dead is their way to the Father.
The only way.
Jesus is Lord, and not Mary.

By: Daver

Daver — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Here is a good first Bible on the Virgin Mary:
The uniqueness of Mary as the Mother of God
Gen. 3:15 - we see from the very beginning that God gives Mary a unique role in salvation history. God says: "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, between your seed and her seed." This refers to Jesus (the "wedge") and Mary (the woman). The phrase "his seed" (spermatos) not seen in other parts of Scripture.
Gen 3:15 / Rev. 12:1 - the Scriptures begin and end with the woman fighting satan. This points to the power of the woman with the seed and teaches us that Jesus and Mary are the new Adam and the new Eve.
John 2:4, 19:26 - Jesus calls Mary "woman" as it is called the general in 3:15. Just as Eve was the mother of creation of age, Mary is the mother of the new creation. This woman will crush the serpent's seed head.
Isaiah 7:14, Matt. 1:23 - a virgin (the Greek word used is "Parthena") will bear a son named Emmanuel, meaning "God is with us." John 1:14 - God in the flesh dwelling among us. Mary is the Virgin Mother of God.
Matt. 2:11 - Luke stresses Jesus with Mary his mother, and the wizards before dropping them, worshiping Jesus.
Luke 1:35 - the child will be called holy, the Son of God. Mary is the Mother of the Son of God, or Mother of God (Theotokos).
Luke 1:28 - "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you." These are the words spoken by God and given to us by the angel Gabriel (who is a messenger of God). Therefore, when Catholics recite this verse while praying the Rosary, are uttering the words of God.
Luke 1:28 - Also, the phrase "full of grace" is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene. This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of the grace of a past event. Mary is not only "heavily favored". She has been perfected in God's grace. "Full of Grace" is only used to describe a person - Jesus Christ in John 1:14.
Luke 1:38 - Mary fiat is "let them do to me according to your word." Mary is the perfect model of faith in God and is worthy of our veneration.
Luke 1:42 - "Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus." The phrase "blessed among women who are" really means "you are most blessed of all women" . A circumlocution is used because there is no superlative in the Greek language. Note also that Elizabeth praises Mary first, and then Jesus. This is hyperdulia (Latvia, but is not the worship owed to God). We can also go through Mary to praise Jesus. Finally, Catholics repeat these divinely inspired words of Elizabeth in the Rosary.
Luke 1:43 - Elizabeth the use of "Mother of my Lord" (in Hebrew, Elizabeth used "Adonai" which means Lord God) is the equivalent of "Holy Mary, Mother of God" that Catholics pray in the Rosary. The formula is simple: Jesus is a divine person, and this person is God. Mary is the mother of Jesus, so Mary is the Mother of God (Mary is not only the Mother of Jesus' human nature - mothers are the mothers of the people, not nature).
Luke 1:44 - Mary's voice causes John the Baptist to leap for joy at the heart of Isabel. Luke tells us that Mary is our powerful intercessor.
Luke 1:46 - Mary says that his soul magnifies the Lord. This is a bold statement of a young Jewish girl from Nazareth. His statement is a strong testament to its uniqueness. Mary, our Mother and intercessor, increases our prayers.
Luke 1:48 - Mary prophesies that all generations call blessed, like the Catholics in the "Ave Maria" prayer. The Protestant churches that have existed in all generations (none), and how many of them to call Mary blessed with special prayers and devotions?
Gal. 4:4 - God sent his Son, born of a woman, to redeem. Mary is the woman with the redeemer. Calling Mary co-redemptrix, simply by calling Mary "the woman with the redeemer." This is because "co" is the latin word "***" means "with". Therefore, co-redemptrix "means" woman with the redeemer. " Maria had a subordinate role only, but Jesus in salvation.
Eph. 1:1, Phil. 1:1, Col. 1:2 - the word "saints" (in Hebrew "qaddiysh") means "holy" ones. This is called Santa Maria, the largest of all the San.
Luke 2:35 - Simeon prophesies that a sword will also pierce Mary's soul. Mary thus plays an important role in our redemption. While the suffering of Jesus all that was necessary for redemption, God wanted Mary to participate in a subordinate role in the suffering of her Son, as it allows us to participate through our own suffering.
Luke 2:19,51 - Mary kept in mind all these things, and pondered it in his heart. Catholics involved in this recall Immaculate Heart of Mary and all the treasures and wisdom and knowledge contained therein.
Mary - the Immaculate Ark of the New Partnership
Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of pure gold of God's Word. Mary is the Ark of the New Partnership and is the most pure vessel of God's Word made flesh.
2 Sam. 6:7 - the ship is so holy and pure that touched him Uzzah when the Lord killed him. This shows us that the ship is undefiled. Mary, the Ark of the New Covenant is even more immaculate and undefiled, free from original sin from God to enable him to carry His eternal Word in her womb.
1 Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account Uzzah and the Ark of God to dwell within the ship Mary, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God let the finger of Satan touches his Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.
1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the great reverence of the Jews had the ship - veneration, costumes, songs, harp, lira, cymbals, trumpets.
Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Lucas conspicuous in the comparison between Mary and the Ark of Samuel described highlights the reality of Mary as the immaculate and undefiled Ark of the New Partnership. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) and left / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the New Ark of the Covenant.
Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David before jumping for joy Mary / Ark then must jump for joy before Mary, the Immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the mother and the Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a sacred privilege. Our Mother would come to us and leads us to Jesus.
Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Maria / the ship was in the house for about three months.
Rev 11:19 - at this moment in history, the Ark of the Old Covenant was not seen for six centuries (see 2 macc. 2:7), and now is finally seen in heaven. The Jewish people would have been absolutely amazed by this. However, John immediately passes this fact and describes the "woman" clothed with the sun in Rev. 12:1. John is emphasizing that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and that, like the old chest, is now worthy of veneration and praise. Also remember that Rev. 11:19 and Rev. 12:1 are tied together, because there is no chapter and verse at the time these texts were written.
Rev 12:1 - the "woman" that John is describing is Mary, the Ark of the New Partnership, with the moon under her feet and her head a crown of twelve stars. Just as the moon reflects light from the sun, so Mary, with the moon under her feet, reflects the glory of the Sun of Justice, Jesus Christ.
Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary is the offspring of those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus. This shows, as Catholics have always believed that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.
Rev. 12:2 - Some Protestants argue that because women had pains, was a woman of sin. However, Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. Symbolism containing varied and multiple meanings of women (Mary, the Church and Israel). Birth pangs describe the birth of Mary and the Church was formed in the offspring of Christ. Mary did not birth pangs in the delivery of his only Son Jesus.
Isaiah 66:7 - for example, see Isaiah prophesies that before she (Mary) was in labor she gave birth before her pain came to her she gave birth to a son (Jesus). This is a prophecy of the virgin birth to Mary of Jesus Christ.
Gal 4:19 - Paul also described their pain as the birth pangs in the formation of the disciples of Christ. Birth pangs describe the formation in Christ.
Rom. 8:22 - well, Paul says the whole creation has been groaning in labor before the coming of Christ. We are all under pain of childbirth because we are reborn in Christ.
Jer. 13:21 - Jeremiah describes the birth pangs of Israel, as a woman at work. Birth pangs are often used metaphorically in Scripture.
Os. 13:12-13 - Ephraim travailing also described as the birth of their sins. Once again, the pains of childbirth are used metaphorically.
Micah 4:9-10 - Micah also describes Jerusalem as seized by the pains of childbirth as a woman at work.
Rev. 12:13-16 - in these verses, we see that even the devil seeks to destroy the woman, even after the Savior has been born. This shows Mary is a danger to the devil, even after the birth of Christ. This is because God has given him the power to intercede for us, and we must rely on your help in our spiritual life.
Mary is our Mother and Queen of Spain David New
John 19:26 - Jesus Mary, Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross saying, "Behold your mother." Jesus did not say "John, behold your mother" and that Mary gave all us, his beloved disciples. All the words that Jesus spoke on the Cross had a divine purpose. Jesus is not just telling John to care for her mother.
Rev. 12:17 - this verse shows the meaning of John 19:26. The "woman" (Mary) are the children who follow Jesus. She is our Mother and we are their progeny in Jesus Christ. The master plan of God's covenant love for us is the family. But we can not be a complete family with the fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Christ Motherhood of Mary.
John 2:3 - that is a very significant verse from Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells us all to do what Jesus says. In addition, the intercession of Mary at the wedding of Cana triggers the ministry of Jesus and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers in a famiy through marriage of divinity and humanity.
John 2:7 - Jesus allows his mother to intercede for the people in his name, and responds to the request of his mother's service order to fill the jars with water.
Psalm 45:9 - the psalmist teaches that the Queen is on the right hand of God. The role of the Queen is important in the kingdom of God. Mary, Queen of Heaven is on the right hand of the Son of God.
1 Kings 2:17, 20 - David in the Old Testament kingdom, the king does not refuse to his mother. Jesus is the new King David, and he does not reject the requests of his mother Mary, the Queen.
1 Kings 2:18 - David in the Old Testament kingdom, Queen intercedes on behalf of supporters of the King. She is the queen mother (or "Gebirah). Mary is our eternal Gebirah.
1 Kings 2:19 - in the Old Testament King David reign arches her mother and she sits on his right hand. We, as children of the New Covenant, we should imitate the King and pay tribute to Mary our Mother. In honor of Mary, we honor our King, Jesus Christ.
1 Kings 15:13 - The Queen Mother is a position of real power in the monarchy of Israel. Here the queen is removed. But now, the kingdom of David is perfected by Jesus and Mary is our Mother forever in his right hand.
2 Chron. 22:10 - here the Queen Mother Athalia destroys the royal family of Judah after she sees her son, King Ahaziah killed. Queen mother played an important role in the kingdom.
Neh. 2:6 - the Queen Mother sits beside the King. She is the principal intercessor before the King.
Virgin Mary is always
Exodus 13:2,12 - Jesus, who is sometimes called the "first-born son of Mary. But "first born" is a common Jewish expression meaning the first child to open the womb. It has nothing to do with children's mother.
Exodus 34:20 - under the Mosaic Law, the "first-born son had to be sanctified. "First born" status does not require a "second" born.
Ezekiel. 44:2 - Ezekiel prophesies that no one passing through the gateway through which the Lord entered the world. This is a prophecy of the perpetual virginity of Mary. Mary remained a virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus.
Mark 6:3 - Jesus was always referred to as the "son of Mary, not" a "son of Mary. Also "brothers" in theory could have been children of Joseph who was a previous marriage dissolved by death. However, it is likely, perhaps most true, that Joseph was a virgin, as were Jesus and Mary. As such, it embodies the true Holy Family, totally devoted to God.
Luke 1:31,34 - the angel tells Mary that "will" design (using the future tense). Mary told her: "How is it possible?" Mary's response demonstrates that she had taken a vow of virginity for life because they have no intention of having sex with a man. If Mary had no such vow of lifelong virginity, her question would make no sense at all (so we can assume he knew how to conceive a child). She was a virgin consecrated as the church was an acceptable custom of the time.
Luke 2:41-51 - in a quest to find Jesus, and Him in the temple, there is never any mention of other siblings.
John 7:3-4, Mark 3:21 - we see that the young "brothers" were advising Jesus. But this would have been very disrespectful to devout Jews if they were biological brothers of Jesus.
John 19:26-27 - Jesus would have been unthinkable to commit the care of his mother to a friend if he had siblings.
John 19:25 - The following verses show that James and Joseph are Jesus' brothers and not their cousins: Mary, the wife of Cleophas is the sister of the Virgin Mary.
Matt. 27:61, 28:1 - including Matthew refers to Mary, the wife of Cleophas as "the other Mary."
Matt. 27:56, Mark 15:47 - Mary the wife of Cleophas is the mother of James and Joseph.
Mark 6:3 - James and Joseph are called "brothers" of Jesus. Therefore, James and Joseph are Jesus' cousins.
Matt. 10:3 - also called James the son of Alphaeus. " This does not disprove that James is the son of Cleophas. The name may be for Alpheus Cleophas Aramaic or Greek name was James and Saul (Paul), and Mary remarried a man named Alphaeus.
Jesus' "brothers" (adelphoi)) = Cousins or Kinsmen
Luke 1:36 - Elizabeth is a relative of Mary. Some Bibles translate kinswoman as "cousin", but this is an improper translation because in Hebrew and Aramaic, there is no word for "cousin."
Luke 22:32 - Jesus tells Peter to strengthen his "brothers." In this case, it is clear to see Jesus "brothers" to refer to the other apostles, not his biological brothers.
Acts 1:12-15 - the reunion of Jesus "brothers" amounts to about 120. That's a lot of "brothers." Half brother relatives in Hebrew.
Acts 7:26, 11:1, 13:15,38, 15:3,23,32, 28:17,21 - these are some of many examples where "brethren" does not mean that the relationship of blood .
Rom. 9:3 - Paul uses "brethren" and "family" interchangeably. "Brothers" of Jesus does not prove Mary had other children.
Gen. 11:26-28 - Lot is the nephew of Abraham ( "anepsios") / Gen. 13:8, 14:14,16 - Lot is called Abraham's brother (Adelphe). This shows that despite a Greek word for cousin is "anepsios" Scripture also uses "Adelphe" to describe a cousin.
Gen. 29:15 - Laban calls Jacob is "brother" even though Jacob is his nephew. Again, this shows that the brother or cousin media relations.
Deut. 23:7, 1 Chron. 15:5-18, Jer. 34:9, Neh. 5:7 - "brethren" means relatives. Hebrew and Aramaic have no word for "cousin."
2 Sam. 1:26, 1 Kings 9:13, 20:32 - here we see that "brethren" can even be an unrelated (not blood), as a friend.
2 Kings 10:13-14 - King Ahaziah of 42 "brothers" were actually their relatives.
1 Chron. 23:21-22 - Eleazar's daughters married their "brethren" who were actually cousins.
Neh. 4:14; 5:1,5,8,10,14 - these are examples of "brothers", which means "cousins" or "relatives."
Tobit 5:11 - Tobías Azarias asked to identify himself and his people, but still calls him "brother."
Amos 1: 9 - brotherhood can also mean an ally (where there is no blood).
Mary of the Assumption into Heaven
Gen. 5:24, Heb. 11:5 - Enoch was taken bodily into heaven without dying. God becomes less of Mary the Ark of the New Partnership?
2 Kings 2:11-12, 1 Mac 2:58 - Elijah was taken up to heaven in chariot of fire. Jesus would not do less than His Blessed Mother.
Psalm 132:8 - Arise, O Lord, and go to your resting place, you and the Ark (Mary) of your strength. Both Jesus and Mary were brought to the place of eternal rest in heaven.
2 Cor. 12:2 - Paul speaks of a man in Christ who was caught up to the third heaven. Mary was raised by God in heaven.
Matt. 27:52-53 - When Jesus died and rose, the bodies of the saints were raised. Nothing in Scripture is opposed to the assumption of Mary into heaven.
1 Thess. 4:17 - who are in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Rev. 12:1 - we see Mary, the "woman" clothed with the sun. Rev. 6:9, whereas we only see the souls of the martyrs in heaven in Rev. 12:1 we see Mary, body and soul.
2 Thess. 2:15 - Paul teaches us that cling to the mouth (not just written) tradition. Apostolic tradition says Mary was assumed into heaven. While claiming the bones of the saints is a common practice these days (and have been especially important for the bones as Mary was the Mother of God), Mary bones were never claimed. This is because they were not available. Mary was taken body and soul into heaven.
Coronation of Mary in the sky
2 Tim 4:8 - Paul says that for him the crown of righteousness. The saints are crowned in heaven, and St. Mary is the largest of all.
James 1:12 - those who will bear the crown of life that God has promised. Maria received the crown of life with eternal life to everyone.
1 Peter 5:4 - when the chief Shepherd is manifested you will receive the unfading crown of glory.
Rev. 2:10 - Jesus will give the faithful until death the crown of life. Jesus gave his Mother Mary the crown of life.
Rev. 12:1 - Mary, "Woman," is crowned with twelve stars. She is Queen of heaven and earth and Mother of the Church.
Wis. 5:16 - that you will receive a crown of glory and a beautiful diadem from the hand of the Lord. Mary is crowned with Jesus forever in his glory.
Misunderstanding about Matthew 1:25 (Joseph knew "until you")
Matt. 1:25 - this verse says Joseph knew "until they (HEOS" in Greek) "she was a child. Some Protestants argue that this shows the relationship with Jose Maria after she had a son. This is a misreading of the text because "not until" does not mean "not until after …". "HEOS" refers to the past, never the future. However, not until she had a son means "not to the point that" she had a son. This confirms that Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus. Here are other texts that show that "not until" means "not to the extent that:
Matt. 28:29 - I am with you until the end of the world. " This does not mean that Jesus is not with us after the end of the world.
Luke 1:80 - John in the desert until his manifestation to Israel. "John was not in the desert until after" his manifestation.
Luke 2:37 - Anna was a widow "to the extent that was eighty-four years. She was a widow after eighty-four years.
Luke 20:43 - Jesus said, "take your seat next to me until I have your toes to your enemies." Jesus is not going to require the apostles to sit at his left hand after their enemies are their feet.
1 Tim. 4:13 - "to the point where I come," attend to teaching and preaching. This does not mean do nothing "until after" I come.
Gen. 8:7 - the raven flew back and forth "to the point" [until] the waters of the dry land. The raven did not start flying after the waters dried.
Gen. 28:15 - the Lord will not leave Jacob "up to the point that" he does His promise. This does not mean that the Lord will leave Jacob later.
Deut. 34:6 - but "to the point today," nobody knows Moses burial. This does not mean that the place did not know until today. "
2 Sam. 6:23 - Saul was the daughter of Micah children "so far" [until] her death. She was not with the child after his death.
1 macc. 5:54 - no one was killed "to the point" in peace again. They were killed after they returned in peace.
Misunderstanding about Romans 3:23 ( "All have sinned")
Rom. 3:23 - Some Protestants use this verse "all have sinned" in an attempt to prove that Mary was with sin. But "all have sinned" only means that they are subject to original sin. Mary was saved from original sin by God, not herself. The popular analogy is that God let us fall into the puddle of mud, and cleaned after us through baptism. In the case of Mary, God will not let her into the puddle of mud.
Rom. 3:23 - "all have sinned" also refers to those which are capable of committing sin. This is not the whole world. For example, infants, the retarded and the senile can not sin.
Rom. 3:23 - Finally, "all have sinned, but Jesus must be an exception to this rule. This means that Mary can also be an exception. Note that the Greek word for all is "pants".
1 Cor. 15:22 - all in Adam ( "participants") have died, all in Christ ( "participants") are living. This shows that "all" does not mean "everyone." This is because not all have died (as Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven), and not all go to heaven (because Jesus said so).
Rom. 5:12 - Paul says that death spread to all ( "pants") males. Again, this shows that "all" does not mean "everyone" because the death did not spread to all men (as we have seen with Enoch and Elijah).
Rom. 5:19 - Paul says here, "many (not all) were made sinners." Paul uses "polloi," not "pants". Paul is contradicting what he said in Rome. 3:23? Of course not. Paul means that they are all subject to original sin, but not rejecting God.
Rom. 3:10-11 - Protestants also use this verse to prove that all humans are sinners, and therefore Mary must be sinful. But see Psalm 14, which is the basis of the verse.
Psalm 14 - This psalm does not teach that all human beings are sinners. Just shows that among the poor, all are sinners. Still looking for the righteous God.
Psalm 53:1-3 - "there is none that does good" refers specifically to those who have fallen away. Those who remain faithful to do good, and Jesus calls these people loyal "good."
Luke 18:19 - Jesus said, "No one is good but God alone." But then Matt. 12:35, Jesus says "The good man of his good treasure …" So Jesus said that no one is good but God, and then calls another good person.
Rom. 9:11 - God distinguished between Jacob and Esau in the womb, before his sin. Maria also is distinguished from the rest of humanity in the womb by God to be saved from original sin.
Luke 1:47 - Mary calls God her Savior. Some Protestants use this to denigrate Mary. Why? Of course God is Mary's Savior! Was released from original sin in the womb (unlike us who are freed from sin outside the womb), but I needed a savior as the rest of humanity.
Luke 1:48 - Mary humbly calls itself. But any creature is humble before God. For example, in Mat. 11:29, Jesus says that even humble of heart. Humility is a sign of humility, which is the greatest virtue of holiness, because it allows us to empty ourselves and receive the grace of God to change our sinful life.
Misunderstanding about Jesus' rebuke Mary
Matt. 12:48, Mark 3:33, Luke 8:21 - when Jesus asks, "Who are my mother and brothers and sisters?" Some Protestants argue that Jesus is rebuking Mary in order to denigrate it. On the contrary, when Jesus remarks are read in light of Luke 8:5-15 and the parable of the sower Jesus taught just prior to his question, Jesus is actually implying that Mary has already received word as sower of the good land and is paying off. Jesus is teaching others to be like Mary, also receive the word and obey it.
Matt. 12:48, Mark 3:33, Luke 8:21 - Jesus' question about "who are my mother and sisters and brothers" are also made in reference to Psalm 69:8-9. Prophet Jesus was responding to the prophecy of the psalmist that the closest he would be betraying his passion. Jesus is emphasizing the importance of the spiritual family in the biological family, and the importance of being faithful to him. While many were unfaithful to Jesus, Mary remained faithful to him, until the point where they are at the foot of the Cross.
Matt. 12:48, Mark 3:33, Luke 8:21 - Finally, they argue that Jesus rebuked Mary is holding that Jesus violated the Torah, in this case, the 4th commandment. This argument is blasphemous, because it essentially says that God by sin dishonoring his mother.
Luke 11:28 - Jesus says: "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it," some protesters also call this a rebuke of Mary. Again, by contrast, Jesus is the exaltation of Mary, with an emphasis on obedience to the Word of God as more important than her biological role of the mother. Luke 1:48 says this.
Luke 11:28 - Also, the Greek word for "no" is "menounge. Menounge really means "yes, but also" or "More." Thus, Jesus is saying, if my mother is blessed indeed, but even more blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it. Jesus is encouraging others to follow the example of Mary to build his kingdom.
Luke 11:27-28 - Finally, Jesus is the one that was praised, not Mary. Therefore, Jesus is the focus of it to others who obey the word of God. If He is to focus attention away from him to others, your comment can not be a reprimand from his mother Mary.
John 2:4 - this is another example of the Protestants use to diminish the importance of Mary. Jesus' question to Mary, "you have to do with me?" No such thing. Rather, the question of Jesus shows the importance of Mary's role in the kingdom. Jesus' question is actually an invitation to his mother to intercede on behalf of all believers and begin his ministry, and his mother understands. Mary intercedes for this, Jesus responds to her, and performed the miracle began his ministry of redemption.
Luke 8:28 - Jesus the demons say the same thing, "you have to do with us." The demons are not rebuke Jesus, because God does not allow it. However, the demons recognized Jesus by the power of your question to him.
John 2:4, 19:26 - When Jesus uses the title "woman" (gnyai), is a title of dignity and respect. It's the equivalent of Lady or Lady. Jesus honored as the Mother of God compels us to do.

By: HTaciana

HTaciana — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Given that Mary had not died when the Bible was written, it would be a little difficult now, is not it?

By: Kimberly

Kimberly — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

Not the cult of Mary, but I pray to her. I ask many saints. Not because I have to for salvation, can not help with that. But I think I can help you live a better life. If you do not, then do not be Catholic. But please leave us alone.
I love and Protestants feel about certain issues of law. This is not one of them.

By: L.C.

L.C. — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:34:32 +0000

The Bible does not support this false teaching.