Comments on: Question For Catholics About Mary …

By: OPM

OPM — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

The whole debate revolves around the choice of words by Lucas Angel. I used kecharitomene which is the past participle of charitoo perfect. It is difficult to translate into English. Full of grace almost meets the criteria, but as a past perfect participle, is now more like full of grace and are always full of grace Completeness. Basically, Lucas is saying at that time Mary was filled with the grace of God and of all time has always been. Therefore, it was the only vessel worthy because God was creating a new building and was the beginning. It is important that the passage of contrast with Luke's words about John the Precursor (also called the Baptist). John was filled with the Holy Spirit from birth after meeting with Jesus in the bosom of their mothers. Mary is not like John. Mary is provided, according to Luke, he was without sin. John turned as Christians become the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Both were by the action of God, but Mary Lucas made different from all others.
The often quoted passage in Romans really do too much in a passage from Paul. Paul was not arguing, but Mary was making a general statement about humanity.
Now Mary was sinless after conception? It is impossible to know, however early Christian doctrine says that Mary was assumed into heaven, or also called the Dormition of Mary, the Resurrection. The story has an interesting story in itself. It was always taken for granted until the Reformation decided to use only the Scriptures. The interesting story is the story of Thomas. In Europe the stories of Thomas, which disappears in the east never to be heard again. When Portuguese explorers arrived in India to Christianize it, they found the people of India and India say the Mass has been isolated from the rest of Christianity for 1000 years. It turns out that was founded by Thomas. According to the story preserved in India, the Virgin appeared to Thomas after her assumption into heaven and sent him to this mission so far as it could go. Did to India before he was martyred. There, the old left and the Catholic beliefs of the services are still in use today.
Now, if that does not respond to Mary remained sinless, but he says it was a holy and sinless in death. If you accept this confirmation very interesting story (which is independent, after all), then you can see that Mary was sinless in the conception and death. The media is really hard to tell. She was the new Eve, but instead of succumbing achieved, or was she and not Eva? I hope that was not successful.

By: AMDG CB

AMDG CB — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

Yes, she was born without original sin (as archangle Gabriel said: "Hail Mary, full of grace").
Besides being a virgin in the conception, she remained a virgin throughout her life. Even the birth of Jesus and later.
Yes, I think that keeps the law perfectly.
She also lived his life without sin, which is why it is so honored to us now. There are many things about it that I could write, and if you allow me some time, I will update this morning.

By: † PRAY † - SFECU

† PRAY † - SFECU — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

Bible says that Jesus is not all. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God
1Peter 2:21,22 For Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example that ye should follow in his footsteps. Who has no sin, neither was deceit in his mouth.
1John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
If we go behind the Bible, then we have only opinions and we ran out of hands God into the equation.
What do we do with Jesus's half brothers and sisters? We need to delete their names from the history Orwell 1984?
Mat 12:49 As he (Jesus), however, spoke with the people, behold his mother and brothers were without, desiring to speak with him.
The book of James was written by her half brother James.

By: kolpo

kolpo — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

Catholics believe that Mary was born without the stain of sin, or Jesus did not live in your belly. If Jesus lives in your stomach and it was stained by sin, then Jesus was also stained with sin. If so, then how can a "sin" Jesus save sinners, when he is contaminated by sin?

By: m

Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

I think Mary is primarily fallibe, a man capable of making mistakes. She is now an honor because she was the mother of Jesus, and a good woman, whose faith was unshakable.

By: stanleyk

stanleyk — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

I was raised Catholic and I remember being taught in school that was without sin. This position is also reinforced by the Catholic belief that was assumed in the sky, which have not been made if he were "in sin". The Feast of the Assumption is a holy day that occurs every August 15.

By: rp74

rp74 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

Yes, because Gabriel says …
The words of the angel Gabriel lets us know that Mary is without sin: "Hail Mary, full of grace the Lord is with thee." A person living in sin can not be in grace, much less full of grace.
Mary acknowledges God as their Savior in the first place, because that is what God is for us all, our Savior. Secondly, whereas in fact, need to be saved, through a special grace of God was "preserved" or "pre-saved" in advance "of original sin. Let's keep in mind that God is master of time and space and this is not impossible for him.
Again, when Gabriel greets Mary full of grace and welcome that has enormous implications, one is Mary, without sin.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

I am a Protestant and Catholic I believe that ideas about Mary are very messy. There is nothing that would give a Bible she was sinless. I think that is a cornerstone of the faith that Jesus was the only person to be sinless. If not it could not have died for us?
I think the idea of belief is that if she wore a man without sin, she should not have had sin. I believe that Jesus rejects this genealogy, which is full of very sinful people (prostitutes, etc.).

By: blaq95

blaq95 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:55 +0000

Only Jesus was without sin. There is nothing in the Bible that says that Mary was immaculate at all. If parents had human is a sinner like you and me.
As it is written: There is a fair, even one that no one understands that no one seeks God.
Romans 3:10-11