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By: Jeanmari

Jeanmari — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

Pandora's box open.

By: Inaya G

Inaya G — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

Well, first you have to understand infallibility. Applies only to certain statements, and in modern times, which have to be approved. There have only been 2 infallible statements in the past 200 years ……. anyways …
loaded question
Simply go to the nearest Catholic church …. talk to the priest.
I found many more than willing to educate you about the truth of Catholicism, rather than the spread of evangelical Christians BS.

By: K S

K S — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

Former Catholic. Not only married Pedro, but had never been to Rome. Paul had been to Rome.

By: secretsa

secretsa — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

Yes, Pedro is the first Pope of the Catholic Church, and, yes he was married. He was not the only married pope, either. Priestly celibacy is not a doctrine of the Catholic Church. It is a discipline that was imposed on hundreds of years after Christ returned to heaven, because of the problems being caused by the priests are married and have heirs who claimed the church property as their rightful inheritance.
At some point in the future, the discipline of priestly celibacy, could be reversed again, but at this time, the priests have to be really known and that 24.7 would be difficult in a family, provide further support for a priest and his wife and their children to be financially difficult for the parish.
Papal infallibility does not mean impeccability Pope. Somehow the whole thing. Pope is an infallible measure of grace by the Holy Spirit that allows a pope not to mention an error with regard to doctrine of the Church. NO means that the Pope never sins or can not make a mistake. Papal infallibility is rarely, rarely, rarely invoked. As has been granted twice. Ever. And it's not really different from their belief that the Holy Spirit allows the pastor to teach the Bible without error. Except that you probably think your pastor can teach the Bible without error every week, and that Catholics believe the Pope only speaks without error of a special provision of the Holy Spirit on a really important topic. The Pope, the last one before that - none of them has issued a statement infallible, but if they had, the statement had been carefully studied, prayed over, contrary to the scriptures researched and tested by theologians gained during years before they are issued. Does your pastor to be very careful before making statements that you take as 100% truth? I think not.
Purgatory is all about Jesus' atonement for us on the Cross. Here's how it works - we are all sinners … nothing unclean can enter heaven … being made to clean the blood of the Lamb. So, when sometime between sinners and die before entering Heaven washed whiter than snow, we go through a cleaning process. This is purgatory. It is a process not a place, and I know that all Christians agree that Jesus has to be washed whiter than snow at some point. Catholics have simply given the "sometime" a name. As you can see, Purgatory is not a * replacement * for the work of Christ on the Cross - that * IS * the work of Christ on the Cross.
We pray for the dead, because they know they are in turmoil until they reach the sky, and we worry about their eternal souls and that we want in heaven with Jesus, as quickly as possible. It would be very ruthless in not praying for your speedy process is purgatory to be in heaven as soon as possible.

By: sparki77

sparki77 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

A Pope infallibility exercised only rarely - a handful of times in history. Here are the conditions:
The Pope must speak ex cathedra (from the Chair of Peter) in his official capacity.
The decision should be binding for the whole Church.
Should be a matter of faith or morals.
Must be intending to teach.
First, a definition is in order: What is Purgatory?
Purgatory is not Hell, minus a few torments and degrees Fahrenheit, which is not the sky, less joy. It is not a "final third" of souls. Purgatory is where souls are cleansed of whether the effects of sin before they can see the holy face of Almighty God. Revelation 21:27 tells us that "… nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]. "
Daniel 12:2, Matthew 12:32, 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, 2 Timothy 1:16-18, Hebrews 12:14, Hebrews 12:22-23, 1 Peter 4:6 and Revelation 21:10, 27 all speak of Purgatory in their telling of the need of purification, prayer for the dead, the preaching of Christ to the dead, or how nothing unclean will see God.
prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12, 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),
Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7)
intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),
and the intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).
Even the Talmud speaks of Purgatory:
Saturday 33b:
"The trial of the wicked in purgatory is twelve months."
Rosh Hashanah 16b-17a:
"It has taught the school of Shammai says:" There will be three groups on the Day of Reckoning (Yom haDin):
The fair will be fully recorded and sealed at once for eternal life. The wicked will be fully registered and sentenced both to Gehinnom, as they say: "And many who sleep in the dust of the earth rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and eternal rejection" [Daniel 12 : 2]. Among the Gehinnom go and stand and shout, as they say: "I will bring the third part through the fire, and improve as silver is refined and tested as gold is tested. It will call on my name and I will respond to them "[Zechariah 13:9]
Rabbi Shammai (50 BC - 30 AD), one of the two great masters of early Rabbinic Judaism, is also registered as Zechariah 13:9 construed as a reference to a state of purification after death. Isaiah 66:15-16 and Malachi 3:2-3 is interpreted in rabbinic literature as referring to the purgatorial process, and the same theme is reflected in Wisdom 3:1-7 and II Maccabees 12:43-45 both contained in the Deuterocanonical
That there are temporal effects of sin is evident if one considers that even those who have been baptized, who have a deep and intimate relationshp with Jesus who is "elected" or "saved / is saved," or what be subject to pain, work, death and disease.
The best way to understand the idea that it is already forgiven, but still have to be cleaned from the effects of sin is by analogy: imagine that you are the father of a 7-year-old boy who steals a chocolate bar from local supermarkets. The child is repentant, in tears, crying apology. You, being the good parent (as God is our Father!) Forgive that children love him and show him and his mercy. But being a good parent means that you are also fair and children are expected to return to the store. Purgatory is God's way of forgiving us, loving us, shows us his mercy and justice - and what makes us "back shop." Can you imagine what would happen to the son of a father who never that children are expected to "return the store" (especially when that same parent believed also that there was nothing that children can do to become "disinherited," as in "once saved, always saved" ; doctrine)?
Purgatory is His way of ensuring that Revelation 21:27 is true that there is nothing dirty and see the sky. It is only through the sacrifice of Christ that shows us this mercy! It is Christ and Christ alone Who allows us access to the Father.

By: tebone03

tebone03 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

So many questions in one! I would like to know it too.
OK, the Pope is the head of the Church on earth, because, obviously, Jesus is the head of the Church. Priests could marry until approximately the 4th century, when much of the church property is taken from the church and left to his heirs. To stop this, the Church ceased to be married priests. Therefore, if a priest had heirs, can not make it to church because they are illegitimate.
What if Pedro Pablo reprimands for the treatment of gentiles in the presence of Jews? Not that Peter wrote things that were wrong. simply means that Paul and Peter disagreed. In fact, none of the apostles Paul and confidence that Paul was in the stoning of Christians. It was reported that took part, if not initiated, in the stoning death of the first Christian martyr, Saint Steven. None of the apostles on Paul because he wanted suspected of lying about his conversion and of being a spy, and rightly so. Furthermore, since all the apostles were Jews, they believed that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied to come in the Torah. Naturally, we would expect that the Gentiles would have to convert to Judaism before they could be Christians. There were many discussions between Paul and the apostles, especially Peter. That does not mean that Peter was wrong and Paul was right, that means they disagree. Finally, at the First Council of Jerusalem around 70 AD, the issue was decided Gentile.
Infallibility has nothing to do with Peter and Paul, or priests to marry. It has to do with the Pope speaking on matters of doctrine of the Church. Papal infallibility is the dogma in Catholic theology that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved even the possibility of error when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as set out in the disclosure divine, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. They were also taught that the Holy Spirit works in the body of the Church, the sensus fidei, to ensure that dogmatic teachings proclaimed to be infallible will be received by all Catholics. Certainly the Church is not implying that any other pope is better than Peter, but Peter is not better than any other man.
Here are some scriptures that support the existence of Purgatory:
* 2 Machabees 12:42-46
* Matthew 5:25-26
* Matthew 12:32 (according to St. Augustine, De civ. Dei 21:24
And St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4:39). The text clearly implies
that the sins which is not the sin against the Holy Spirit (the third
the refusal of the sinner who repents) can be forgiven in the world to
coming, "referring to purgatory.
* Matthew 18:34
* 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 (as Origen, Hom., 6, Exodus.;
St. Jerome, In Amos, 4, San Ambrosio, Ser. 20, Ps. 117;
St. Augustine, In Ps. 27, St. Augustine, De Civ. Dei 21:24;
St. Gregory the Great, Dial. 4:39). St. Paul tells us that the soul
is an imperfect man ultimately be saved, although they will suffer for a while by the fire, ie Purgatory.
* 1 Corinthians 15:29
* Philippians 2:10 (referring to the three traditional divisions of the Church, namely, the Church triumphant "in heaven", the Church militant on earth, and suffering caused to the Church "under the land)
* Hebrews 12:23
* 1 Peter 1:6
Revelation 21:27 *
Purgatory I have explained this way: the sky is considered a large part of God-given imagination. God can not wait to see it in your hand and actually wants you to sit right in front so you can see you enjoy. Arrive and walk to the seat he has kept for you. Is delighted that you're there, but realize that you're uncomfortable. You are surrounded by well-dressed people, who have shown, shave and put on his hand to be the party of God. You, on the other hand, have no chance to shower or shave or change his clothes in which you just happen to work in the garden when God called you to the party. That squirm in his seat, nervous, and feel that simply does not belong to this crowd and not sitting in front of God. So much that you'll lose, you are sent to the showers (Purgatory) to clean and spruce so that when you return to the party, and return, you can enjoy its fullness. God loves us enough to let us stop for a while to feel comfortable in your presence surrounded by holy people. That helps me have a greater appreciation of God's love for us. I believe that prayer for the dead was said that the explanation also.
I do not think you will believe or agree with any of this. In my experience, most Protestants refuse to change their misconceptions about the Catholic Church in favor of truth.

By: rukiddin

rukiddin — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

"The Apostle Peter is considered the first Pope of the Catholics. The Catholic Church says the Pope is the figure of God and is infallible "
This is correct —
Nobody is the head of the figure of God> The Pope is the leader of the Catholic Church.
> The Pope holds the Catholic Church. Peters last position.
Now I spend my time in argument or debate … There is much more important things to cover.
Purgatory> The Jews and early Christians believed in one Place "
of the Dead "the first Christian tombs .. requesting prayers for the dead.
I know that God respects free will on this earth> I also know that in death ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ My damaged corrupted human nature () The sin of Adams will be perfect and I will not be inclined to sin as I was in the flesh .
But what of my years of life on Earth where I learned to desire sin?
Do I wait for my God now ignore free will in working with me to holiness?
Therefore, we can understand the Purgatorio.
A place where> we have done in my Whole Human Nature> Whole Holiness can continue to be on my way to lose the attraction that I have acquired in my years of sin to live a life of sin and the earth .. Make the final processing of Pure Holiness to enter heaven … This is God> respecting me as an individual. I did not change in any way against my will or knowledge .. but I am slowly transforming.
Purgatory God must exist if there is respect for Free>
.

By: catholic

catholic — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

Here is my take on these issues. The Pope is infallible only in matters of faith and morals and when in full concert with the bishops. I think there have only been several decisions that the church is considered infallible, and these were mainly in the literature. All doctrines of faith do not have to be in the Bible since the Bible is our only rule of faith. Nowhere in the Bible does not teach that the only rule of faith. This is the old "sola scriptura" argument used by Luther, which has been shown to be false, and that is not taught in Scripture. As Catholics, we are going with tradition with the Bible.

By: Terry D

Terry D — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:49 +0000

big question.