Comments on: Catholics - Where The Bible does say something about Pergatory? Worship Mary?

By: Savaya

Savaya — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

I was raised Catholic in a Catholic school for eight years. All the time I went to school and years before that, every May, we had what is called the "May Crowning" FIRST CLASS ALL through eighth grade have their own special song THAT SANG MARIA on it then when all classes were in their place in the church, the children would have a statue of Mary surrounded by flowers, on any platform, THE FRONT OF THE CHURCH, A GIRL OF THE EIGHTH GRADE AND WILL BE UP TO YOUR PLACE CROWN ON YOUR HEAD. There will be more songs of worship. IF THIS IS NOT WORSHIP, THEN WHAT IS?
It is a mistake! There is no place in Scripture that Purgatory SUPPORTS well.

By: toing

toing — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

First, for the time thousanth, Catholics do not, nor ever have venerated Mary. It's so forbidden and so bad, no Catholic ever thought to do so.
However, there are two points that need input scriptural First, the Gospel of Luke says, "All generations will call me blessed." Mary is a model of what we are. She led the world to God through the Spirit. Catholics see themselves as obligated to give to God in the world as did Mary. We too are in the same election, God in the world, or do not like Mary, and reject that choice.
Mary is the daughter and the servant of the Supreme King and Heavenly Father. She is the Blessed Mother of Our Lord and Master Jesus Christ. She is the wife of the Holy Spirit.
All who love the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul and mind and with all their strength (cf. Mk 12:30) and love their neighbors as themselves (cf. Matthew 22:39 ) and that the tendency to despise mankind in his sin, receive the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and draw from within themselves the fruits of true repentance, so happy and blessed are these men and women when they make these things, and persevere in them, do so because "the Spirit of the Lord rest upon them" (cf. Is 11:12) and the Lord will make your home and "home with them" (cf. Jn 14:23) . They are the sons of the Father (cf. Matthew 5:45) whose works they do. They are spouses, brothers and mothers of our Lord Jesus Christ. (see Matthew 12:50).
We are their spouses when the faithful soul is joined by the Holy Spirit in Our Lord Jesus Christ. We are brothers [and sisters] when we do the will of the Father in heaven "(cf. Matthew 12:50). We are mothers when we have it in our hearts and bodies (cf. 1 Corinthians 6:20) with divine love and with pure and sincere, and giving birth to him through a holy life which should enlighten others because of our example (Matthew 5:16).
Second, the commandment that we must honor our parents actually translates into English as the glorification. Thus, Jesus as a faithful son would have glorified his Mother. We are called to imitate Christ in all things, therefore glorify his Mother, in honor and respect to Him who is our Master. The Church still remembers both her and John the Baptist and even birthday is celebrated in honor of Jesus having his birthday and in honor of the New Creation that point ourselves. We honor Jesus emulating Jesus.
Ask all Catholics to pray for us. If we may not like the Pharisee, but we are called to be like the publican and pray "Lord have mercy," constantly. We ask all to pray for us, including the saints already in heaven, like Mary of the thief on the cross.
Purgatory is the idea that most of us are imperfect in the death and that God is perfect, elminating all unholiness which led us to the grave, in spite of our faith and trust in the Lord. This is not a place, it is transformation. Is the improvement by God. The medieval German understood as a place like a forge. The Church also teaches that some people are already in heaven, like Mary or the Good Thief. Like the martyrs, and some other people who died in holiness and clearly done wonderous signs and miracles, as Nicholas of Myra (Santa Claus).
If you're looking for prayers for the dead, you just need to search in 2 Maccabees 12:43-45. Luther eliminated because it does not agree with him, along with James, Jude and Revelation. I can not stop to consider that reduced the Protestant Bible. You can probably find the ticket online. There is of course an explicit prayer for the dead by Paul in 2 Timothy 1:16-18.
16 May the Lord grant mercy to the family of Onesiphorus because it often gave me the heart and is not ashamed of my chains.
17 But when he came to Rome, he searched for me and I quickly found.
May 18, the Lord grant him to find mercy of the Lord in that day.
This is a sentence in written form. May Jesus has been granted the mercy of the Father's Day of Reckoning.
You can also find examples of prayers of intercession and the dead in the catacombs and in the oldest documents of the service. The service has left James, the brother of the Lord clearly states in union with the martyrs. If you did not know that the services left to us by James, Mark, Peter Thomas and I think they are still around then you should be surprised. They are still in use today. In its abbreviated form that are the basis for Catholic services. James service lasts four hours it has been reduced twice. Once a Basil of Caesarea and once Chrysostum John, bishop of Antioch and later Constantinople. You can listen to all the service in Jerusalem. Service mark is still used by the Copts, and I think indirectly in the regular Sunday service by the Romans. As I understand, the regular Sunday service is a modification of the Gallican liturgy, which in turn comes from Alexandria (Marcos). Thomas Christians in India still use their services, having been founded by the Apostle Thomas. Roman Easter service, as I understand it, in its complete form with the thirteen and thirteen Old Testament readings and psalms of the New Testament is what is left of the Petrine service.
Finally, if you see an icon of Mary, she's almost always points to Jesus. Their role is to point that way, He is the Way, she helped find the humanity.
Before you jump and attack Catholics assume that read the same passage as it does. Since the Scriptures are proclaimed in all services, we have all heard the entire Bible many times throughout our lives. Even in the Roman Church, when the service was in Latin, the Scriptures have always been in the vernacular. Romano has read the entire Bible in three years in service and on Sunday two years of service during the weekday. Byzantines in less than a year. I'm not sure what others do.
Many of the world's largest Catholic scholars are writing. Catholics have always read the Scriptures. Indeed, at Easter, is the practice of the Byzantine Catholic Church to proclaim that in as many languages as possible. You should hear the Gospel of John in Greek Koinè. It's beautiful.

By: mx3baby

mx3baby — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

Council of Trent.

By: OPM

OPM — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

Never said anything about pergatory, Catholicism "government" is very smart, which all Catholics in conne believeing that for every Catholic is part of the dead realitives and there is no money or part of real estate, let me now say that some very smart thinking …. because after all they have to pay for a mass to keep our dead pergatory that the Catholic church can make and it costs much money, now do not care if you think so much of their dead grandmother to do this for free? Its just the greatest scam religic now floating in a day, please do not worry about the Catholic face of this earth can answer you why, because I do not know why the whole, only the "preist" or "father" knows all the same …. my my my eh lol thats convenient

By: DramaGuy

DramaGuy — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

if you want to understand Catholicism read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" Bloodlines of the Holy Grail. " Catholics changed, deleted pages and people, and the right to award basterfied twisted what the Bible had to say.Mary is a woman. .. Like many Christian sects that devalue women .. That's why you do not see the female Catholic priests.

By: chrystal

chrystal — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

God has a mother?
Catholicism is a religion based on lies, hoping that a good Catholic to accept the truth is waiting too.
The bimbo served its purpose, is dead.
What does that sounds inflammatory?

By: TimeWast

TimeWast — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

What is the point of answering this question if you have already shown that he has a closed mind? O Mary, it means the Mother of God? yes … that's not important at all …
And the other "Response", exult Catholic Mary, will not affect it.
Lord, grant me patience.

By: Donald Shaw

Donald Shaw — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

The concept of purgatory is only found in the Catholic Bible Macabee 2 which reads: "This was a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in sight, because if not the expected deaths to rise again, it would have been futile and absurd to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had come to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. So I made atonement for the dead who could be freed from this sin "(2 macc. 12:43-45).
As for Mary, I believe that Jesus spoke to his gentely when he exhalting rebuke to a woman in Luke 11:27-28:
"While he was speaking, a woman called from the crowd and said:" Blessed is the womb that carried you and the breasts that nursed you. "He replied:" Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it. "
I think if a Catholic is to drive with care and love for the intimacy with Christ, the Spirit of God opens the whole truth to him or her, as it has done with many.

By: ThisMach

ThisMach — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

In the Bible, New Testament, it says;
Thou shalt be with me in heaven at the right side of my Throne. Your Faith worship includes me, my father, and the Holy Spirit. You'll be in heaven if you recognize my mother Mary as the God and equal to God as you worship the Mother Mary goes directly to heaven without my permission, as Mother Mary is my mother and a great woman.

By: Wassa!

Wassa! — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:32:59 +0000

First, it is not supposed to worship Mary, which is supposed to pray to her to ask him to pray with you and for you.
* "Some Fundamentalists also charge, as if really proved something," The word is nowhere in purgatory scripture. "This is true, however, does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that a belief that has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation are not in Scripture either, but the doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, but does not use that word, and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a different place purgatory … "