When Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses Making Ideas About Mary Rc are not part of the Trinity Doctrine?
Doctrine of the Trinity has nothing to do with Jesus' earthly mother, Mary, at all. Christian teaching about the Trinity is that God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, are triune fellowship within the Godhead. The Holy Spirit is not a woman! Your physical is not! Mary is the mother of God! The Bible does not offer a shred of support for Islamic ideas that Christians are saying that Mary is God's wife. JW arguments and keep referring to Mary, though in different ways, when denying the Trinity. Although this is the Roman Catholic school, which has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Trinity. Why keep doing this? Are they so desperate for ammunition to create a straw man (or woman in this case) that can break down easily? They do not understand what it teaches the Trinity? I'd value Mulsim JW and explanations, please, but if someone can explain this, please!
- Catholic Does Mary has nothing to do with the Trinity?
- Why do you think Mary Mohammad was part of the Trinity?
- Why do Muslims believe that Christians believe the Trinity is three Deities Differant?
- Why do Catholics pray to Mary, Mother of Jesus, Jesus never said much, nor was she part of the Trinity, so why?
- Catholics: Asked about the doctrine of La Concepción Immaculant (Mary)?
Now I read the comments that have a clearer understanding of the issue. To shed light on how Jehovah's Witnesses have used the Catholic belief in Mary to the Trinity barroso problem, here is what the brochure "If they believe in the Trinity?" Says:
"If the Trinity is false, it is degrading to Almighty God to call someone your equal, and even worse to call Mary the Mother of God '… Is it honor God to call someone your equal? Is it the honor of calling Mary "Mother of God" and "mediator" … between the Creator and his creatures, "as the New Catholic Encyclopedia?"
This gives the (false) impression that Mary is the Mother of God and co-redemptrix is part of the teaching of the Trinity. It is not. Both ideas are relatively new compared to the time when the doctrine of the Trinity was made clear prior to 600 A. In the early centuries, there was this corruption of education. Catholicism unbiblical ideas introduced relatively recently, and biblical Christians hate them. In this way, the Watchtower Society leaders have undermined the doctrine of the Trinity.
Moreover, Jehovah's Witnesses evil that the Holy Spirit is. Like the Muslims, who use the tiny yhs, JW and lowering the Holy Spirit to a mere power, "yes."
Praying to Mary (as well as numerous saints), are Catholics really worship, because to pray to God to worship God, but not many people realize that. Therefore, it is understandable that Muslims take in the Roman Catholic teachings that are political.
Because both Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses misinterpret what the Trinity teaches that evil and the Holy Spirit, it is almost impossible for them to see the truth of the trinity, namely, that there is three people, but which are within of the Triune Godhead three points. I hope I explained well.
Just to clarify a misunderstanding - nowhere in the Bible suggests that God had sex with Mary. That is an outrageous idea.
When Muslims of reality and JW RC ideas about Mary are not part of the Trinitarian doctrine? Well, maybe some of the information submitted in response to this question will help clarify things a bit.
I have witnessed for more than 30 years and have never said or heard anything said about Mary in relation to the doctrine of the Trinity. Why not check out the Catholic Encyclopedia (1967 Vol XIV, p 299) on the Trinity doctrine, then say they still believe in him. You can also try the New Encyclopedia Britannica. X Micropedia Vol 1976 p 126. Encyclopedia Americana 1956 / VOL. XXV11 p. 294L
John McKenzie, S.J. in his Dictionary of the Bible (New York, 1965 p 899)
Only a few more and I did not list
Thus Muslims believe that there is one God … and never had a son … or a child of this issue.
Sura Ekhlas (# 112) …
Saying that there is one God … The God who does not need anyone or anything but the whole world and around the world need … He has no children and he was not born … And there is nobody like him …
Quite possibly at the same time that Roman Catholics realize that what other religions are no cree your damn business?
Neither Mary, nor worship the trinity, is compatible with the Bible.
Yes I understand that the trinity has nothing to do with Mary, never heard someone say he did so far. I also know in my heart that the trinity is not biblical.
Who knows where ideas come from the RC, not the Bible it seems.
And that is why I am a Muslim not a Christian …
I believe in God and is …
You believe that another ghost in a spirit that is holy, that some humans are "God", but is found in human flesh …
When they realize the Adversary has worked its way into everything in our world. And their beliefs are contaminated too!
I think the idea that their Jesus is God himself who cannot agree with.
To be honest, it doesn't make sense to me either.
How can Jesus be God if he is the son of God? I mean, if I had a son who look like me but can not be me?
In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
And relate the story of Mary as mentioned in the book, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern place;
Examined and distanced from them. Then We sent to her Our angel and he appeared to her in the form of a well-proportioned man.
She said: "I seek refuge in God from you if you made DOST you. "
The angel said, "I am only a messenger from thy Lord, that I can give you the glad tidings of a son just.
She said, 'How can I have a son when no man has touched me, nor I have been unchaste? "
The angel said: 'It will therefore be. "But your Lord says," It's easy for me, and let's do so that we can make him a Sign to men and a mercy from U.S., and was decreed a thing. "
So she conceived him and withdrew with him to a remote location.
And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of the palm. She said, 'O, who had died before this and has become a very neglected!
Then the angel called him from beneath her, saying, 'Do not be sad. Thy Lord hath placed a rivulet beneath thee;
'And you shake the trunk of the palm, which will drop on you fresh ripe dates;
"So eat and drink and refresh your eyes. And if you see any man, for example, 'I have vowed a fast to the Merciful God, I therefore do not speak this day to any human being. "
Then she took him to her people, mounted. They said, 'O Mary, surely, you have committed a monstrous thing!
'O sister of Aaron, your father was not a bad man nor was thy mother a woman unchaste!
Then she pointed to him. They said, 'How can one speak of a child in the cradle? "
Jesus said, "I am a servant of Allah." He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet;
'He has blessed me wherever I may be, and has ordered me prayer and charity as long as I live;
'And he has made me dutiful towards my mother, not me grace and arrogant;
"And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace will be the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised to life again."
That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of truth on which to entertain doubt.
Do not correspond to the majesty of Allah to take for himself a son. He is holy. When He decrees a thing, telling her, "I know, and comes to be."
Jesus said, "Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him alone, this is the way forward."
Muslims do not believe in the trinity, the Muslims do not believe that God, Mary was the wife., Muslims do not believe that Mary is the mother of God.
Muslims believe in Allah and he is one. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet, not god or son of god. Muslims believe in the miraculous conception of Jesus. Muslims believe that Mary was a pious woman and the best option to be the mother of the prophet Jesus.
we see Matthew 28:19
remember Catholics are Christians, though …. the others you mentioned are not
Realizing that no matter what the religious types. Take life with your life and stop wasting your time on the myths and man-made dogmas!
Joseph and Mary are the parents of jesus.they had sex, that what happens.no or demons in disguise virgin births.when people wake up and learn the truth.
Purpose of deception is a tool for both religions. They can not understand three co-equal persons, but one God. So it's an attack or other person of the Godhead, to minimize or refute their deity. Not truly believe that God is powerful enough to be triune. Therefore, worship a false god because the god they serve is not capable of Elohim.
Unless we Catholics are not considered fully Christian, I would say that is completely wrong.
Catholics have been around much longer than the Protestants and to call Mary the Mother of God and consider it a part of Divinity.
Read this :::::
"The three-in-one/one-in-three mystery of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit did tritheism official. The subsequent almost deification of the Virgin Mary made quatrotheism … Finally, the cart load of saints raised to quarter-deification turned Christianity into plain old polytheism. At the time of the Crusades, which was the most polytheistic religion ever to have existed, with the possible exception of Hinduism.
This untenable contradiction between the assertion of monotheism and polytheism in reality it was accusing other religions of the Christian fault. The Church - Catholic and later Protestant - turned aggressively on the two most clearly monotheistic religions in view - Judaism and Islam - and persecuted as heathen or pagan.
The exterior of the history of Christianity consists largely of accusations that other religions are based on the worship of more than one god and therefore not the true God. These must be converted pagans, conquered and / or killed for their own sake to benefit from the uniqueness of the Holy Trinity, plus appendages. "- The skeptic of the Company (John Ralston Saul)
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