Women priests in the Catholic Church …?
I was raised Catholic but I have never been able to figure this one.
Why the Catholic Church only allows men to become priests? Tradition? Writing? Something else?
Please no stupid answers, I'm really curious what the Church is the point of view.
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In the most basic level, the answer to the question is simple: The priesthood of the New Testament is the priesthood of Christ himself. All men, through the Sacrament of Orders, have become the priests (or bishops) to participate in the priesthood of Christ. And it involves a very special way: They act in persona Christi capitis, in the person of Christ, the Head of his Body, the Church.
Christ was a man
Christ, of course, was a man, but some of those who advocate the ordination of women insist that sex is irrelevant, that a woman can act in the person of Christ as a man can. This is a misunderstanding of Catholic doctrine on the differences between men and women, the Church insists that they are irreducible, men and women, by their nature, are suited to different, but complementary, roles and functions.
The tradition established by Christ himself
However, even if the differences between the sexes, as many advocates of the ordination of women do, we must face the fact that the management of men is an unbroken tradition that goes back not only to the apostles, but to Christ himself. As the Catechism of the Catholic Church (paragraph 1577) states:
"Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination." The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed in his ministry. The college of bishops, priests with whom we are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever active reality until Christ's return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord Himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.
Not one ministry, but an indelible spiritual character
Yet the argument, some traditions are made to be broken. But again, you do not understand the nature of the priesthood. Coordination is not limited to permit a man to perform the functions of a priest, but it gives an indelible (permanent) for spiritual that makes a priest, and Christ and his apostles chose only men to be priests Only men can become priests validly.
The inability of Ordination of Women
In other words, it's not just that the Catholic Church does not allow women to be ordained. If you are a validly ordained bishop to perform the rite of the sacrament of the exact order, but the person who allegedly ordered the woman out of place in a man, a woman is no longer a priest in the final rite of which she was before they started. The bishop of the action in trying to manage a woman would be illegal (against the laws and regulations of the Church) and invalid (ineffective and therefore null and void).
To coordinate the movement of women in the Catholic Church, therefore, never go anywhere. Other Christian denominations, to justify the law women have had to change their understanding of the nature of the priesthood to transmit an indelible spiritual character in the man who is ordained to the priesthood in a is treated as a simple function. But to abandon 2000 years of age, understanding the nature of the priesthood would be a doctrinal shift. The Catholic Church can not do so and remain the Catholic Church.
Catholic Christian
Paul said somewhere in the Bible that women were not enough to be holy priests, or something.
This does not mean that in the history of the Catholic Church, there has been no women priests. Have been at least one and possibly two popes in the past. This is why we now lift their heads on the Pope to check and see if it has the men's team in one of their ceremonies.
The parts of wills that have allowed women priests were left out when Constantine, a pagan, I personally decided which books should be allowed in the Bible.
Oh, and the myth that Constantine converted on his deathbed, is just that. His son, and his personal servant, both of which were with him when he died, refused to convert.
I was raised Catholic too. I think this practice is based in scripture, but I am sure that the quote or verse. I must remember to have something to do with women not being allowed to speak in church.
Remember that Catholicism is the most dogmatic of the Christian religions. Many or most of their rituals and traditions are not based in scripture at all. In fact, many or most of them were taken from pagan rituals.
1 Timothy 2:11-13 11. A woman must receive instruction silently and under complete control. 12. I do not allow a woman to teach or have authority over a man. Must be quiet. 13. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. "
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 34. Women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, even though the law says 35 .. But if you want to learn something, you should ask their husbands at home. It is improper for a woman to speak in church.
Priests were the educated class and served as both teachers and authority figures. These verses excluded women from those roles. Simple as that.
Lets get real people. The Catholic Church does not have any anti-woman. Their reasons are religious and practicle.
Religious: Jesus was a man of his disciples were all men.
Study: The Church was not born yesterday. In 2000 years, and the world was very different from just 200 years ago. Indeed, Western culture from the Greeks to the Romans, the 18-century society has been "unfair" to women. It has nothing to do with religion.
Now I put in quotes because although unfair is not fair, had a good reason. In all the pre-industrial societies, about 50% of all children die before the 10. Something like 20% of all women died in childbirth. Want a woman to hold political power or religious, if she has a 20% chance of dying if she is a child? No. Furthermore, the community needs to survive high birth, the woman was in the role of parenting. Keep in mind, Dad can not heat a bottle of formula for babies in the medieval world, the only way to feed a child is breastfeeding. Women were the only ones that could raise a child.
In fact, if we look at Greek and Roman views of women, Christians in fact always a better situation for women. In fact, women were among the most enthusiastic converts. We join a convent as a negative thing, but if the women in her family tend to die in childbirth, you see salvation in a religious life. People used to think that women choose the sex of the child, his mother did not present a human hair, you may consider joining a nunnery rather than force them to marry a man who will treat you badly.
I am a Grad Student of Medieval History.
It is a priesthood because Jesus chose men (Apostles). Everything that Jesus did and said it was on purpose. The choice of men is important, as is the election of a woman (Mary) for the Savior in the world was significant.
The time when Jesus lived were their priests in other religions, so it certainly could have chosen women, but did not. He chose only men. Therefore, the Church can only continue with what God intended, it does not have the authority to change it.
But the Church is far from oppression of women. In fact, the Catholic Church is often accused of worship of Mary (who do not), obviously a woman. Marian religious orders are full of men who have a devotion to the Blessed Mother. The role of wife and mother is as prominent and honorable in the Catholic Church, which is the world that these papers "second class". Feminist thinking has done inside the minds of many women who assume that if they are told that can not be something that they are being discriminated against is not the mind or motivation of the Church … or God. Obviously God loves everyone the same, men and women, yet it is God who chose men for his priests. The Church is nothing against the woman who God is.
Catholics believe that priests follow the tradition of the apostles were all men. The rationale is that if Jesus intended women to lead the church, have been chosen as followers. (Never mind that it was women who stuck to their side in place of the crucifixion and the empty tomb, and the twelve men were cowering in an underground room.) Obviously this is a weak reason, without regard to a historical context.
It's just another way to celebrate women through religion. Pope Benedict XVI is running around talking about the "gender confusion destructive", which means 6 billion people on earth can be arbitrarily divided into two groups with the same characteristics. All mothers, providers of all men, etc.
The short answer is that the Catholic Church has an exclusively male priesthood, because it alone has the authority to order the men.
When Jesus established the priesthood, he chose only men to be apostles (disciples not as another said, had a lot of women disciples, but only male Apostles). He could have chosen women. Women were prominent among his disciples, and in his ministry. Mary Magdalene would have been a better candidate that some of the Apostles.
Jesus also broke the conventions of genre. He spoke to the woman for the good .. alone .. a Samaritan woman .. a notorious sinner. This was unthinkable. He left Mary (Martha's sister) sit and learn at their feet. This was also unthinkable. Jesus was certainly no slave to the gender policy of the day, he could have chosen a woman as priest.
But Jesus chose only men. So therefore the church can only choose men. There are theological reasons for this, but ultimately, it all comes back to this.
If the Catholic Church were to start ordering women, lose their identity. The authority with which the Church has taught about the ordination of women is the same authority with which he has taught about the Eucharist, on the canon of Scripture, about the Trinity, about the sacraments of salvation on the nature of Jesus himself. The Catholic Church believes that it is guided by the Holy Spirit, which is the basis of its authority. If this thing is overturned, then the authority has shown that was canceled as well. This means that all beliefs are based on redefining the fashion of the day. We have seen in the Anglican Communion, especially the Episcopal Church. Within 40 years after the beginning of co-ordination of women, believing that Jesus is God, is still in play in which the Communion.
Oh, and "whatotherway? There have been no women potatoes. No part of the ritual, where the Pope gets up to check his "team." Constantine and has nothing to do with the formation of the Bible Canon, which was much later. And * that * was baptized on his deathbed. No proof of his son and servant saying otherwise. These are all the Internet standards, anti-Catholic tripe. If you really want nobody believes them, you better be prepared to show some signs .. not just some place where someone says is true, but real historical sources.
It's like this. The priest is supposed to be the conduit of Jesus, the man at the last supper. As the human form of God took the form of a man, a woman can not do this ritual. Ridiculous, but it is their religion, not mine.
The women in the priesthood
Gen. 3:15, Luke 1:26-55, John 19:26, Rev. 12:1 - Mary is the greatest creation of God, was the person closest to Jesus, but Jesus did not choose to be priest. God chose only men to be priests to reflect the complementarity of the sexes. As the man (the royal priest) gives life to the natural woman in the conjugal partnership, the ministerial priest is the supernatural life in the New Covenant sacraments.
Judges 17:10, 18:19 - fatherhood and priesthood are synonymous. Micah says: "Stay with me, and my father and a priest." Fathers / priests give life, and mothers receive and nurture life. This reflects our Father God who gives the life of grace through the priesthood of her Divine Son, and Mother Church receives the life of grace and feeding their children. In short, women can not be priests because women can not be parents.
Mark 16:9, Luke 7: 37-50, John 8:3-11 - Jesus allowed women to join in their unique mission, beyond the glorification of cultural norms. His decision not to order the woman had nothing to do with culture. The writers of the Gospels is also clear that women participate in the ministry of Jesus and, unlike men, never betrayed Jesus. Women have always maintained the highest esteem in the Church (eg, the holiest of the Church and the model of faith is a woman, the constant teaching of the Church on the dignity of motherhood, the Church of understanding of humanity united as the bride of Christ, etc.).
Mark 14:17,20, Luke 22:14 - the language "the twelve" and "apostles," shows Jesus Eucharistic holy priesthood in charge, giving orders to men.
Gen. 14:10, Heb. 5:6,10, 6:20, 7:15,17 - Jesus, the Son of God, is both king and priest after the priest-king Melchizedek. Jesus embodies both the priesthood and monarchy parentage.
Gen. 22:9-13 - as announced, our redemption God chose to be secured by the sacrifice of love that the Son is the Father.
Matt. 26:26, Mark 14:22, Luke 22:19 - because the priest acts in persona Christi in offering to the Father, the priest can not be a woman.
Mark 3:13 - Jesus selected the apostles, "as he desired," according to his will and not according to the demands of their culture. Because Jesus acted according to His will was perfectly united to the Father, we can not criticize Jesus' selection of men to be his priests without criticizing God.
John 20:22 - Jesus breathed only the male apostles, the first bishops, giving them the authority to forgive and retain sins. In fact, the male priesthood of Christianity was a distinction of the priestesses of paganism that existed at the time. A female priesthood would be a return to non-Christian practices. The sacred tradition of a male priesthood and the Church has existed for 2000 years.
1 Cor. 14:34-35 - Paul says a woman is not allowed to preach the word of God in the Church. It has always been the tradition of the Church by the priest or deacon only (ordered a male) to read and preach the Gospel.
1 Tim. 2:12 - Paul also said that a woman is not allowed to hold authority in the teaching of the Church. Can you imagine how much Mary, Mother of God, would have been able to teach Christians about his Son Jesus in the Church? However, he is not allowed to hold this kind of teaching authority in the Church.
Rom. 16:1-2 - while many Protestants point to terminate this verse in the tradition of the Church, the priesthood of a man, Diaconis, like Phoebe, were assistants to the priests (eg the preparation of naked women for a baptism order to avoid scandal). However, these helpers were never ordered.
Luke 2:36-37 - prophetesses, like Anna, the woman who was devoted to religious life, but were not sorted.
Isaiah 3:12 - Isaiah complains that the priests of ancient Israel had their authority usurped by women, and this was at the height of Israel's covenant apostasy.