Comments on: How are Catholics wrong if Christians were the first recording of the Church?

By: Fireball

Fireball — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:54 +0000

that was not orthodox … do not miss the dates ..

By: David

David — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:54 +0000

n the early Christians explain ithttp: / / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGX27S814 …

By: David

David — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:54 +0000

Catholicism is not Christian. Catholicism teaches a false gospel of works that leads to eternal torment in hell (Galatians 1:6-9).
It is clear in the Book of Acts in the Bible that Catholics did not even exist during the days of Acts. Those in the book of Acts are the first Christians, who believed that what is called a fundamentalist doctrine today. Anyone can read the book of Acts and see for themselves. Catholicism had existed during the time of Acts, the early Christians have been totally rejected Catholicism.
Also here are Christians called the "pope" the Antichrist, and also totally rejects Catholicism, long before Martin Luther even born:
c. 1310
Dante Alighieri
c. 1331
Michael of Cesena
c. 1345
Johannes de Rupescissa
c. 1350
Francesco Petrarca
c. 1367
John Milicz
c. 1379
John Wycliffe
c. 1388
Matthias of Janow
c. 1389
R. Wimbledon
c. 1390
John Purvey
c. 1393
Walter Brute
c. 1412
John Hus
c. 1497
Girolamo Savonarola
So not only is wrong to say that "Catholics were the first Christians", but this list blows away from the Catholic assertion that "there were no other churches in the Catholic Church, until Martin Luther."
He had always kept the believers out of the Catholic religion, who knew Catholicism can not save anyone.
Catholicism can not save. Only by believing in Jesus alone for salvation, is what saves.
The truth about Jesus is that the only way to save and enter heaven and avoid being sent to eternal hell is by believing in faith alone that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross as payment COMPLETE all our sins, then Jesus rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Believe this and you will be in heaven, no matter what! Salvation is a free gift that happens in a split second when you believe in Jesus alone to save you! It is impossible to lose or "leave" salvation (John 6:39-40, 1 John 5:13).
Please pray now: "Jesus, please forgive my sins. I believe you died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead. Thank you for eternal life! "You will be in heaven with Him forever when you die.

By: Danny H C.A.B.

Danny H C.A.B. — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

Thank you. Logically not Catholic, the Church had been wrong all these years. Never mind that she was the only Christian church in existence, so that means that thousands of years and years and half the value of Christians who thought they had the right and the Gospel were on the way to salvation in fact did not and were not t? So all these people lost?
This is the consequence of his logic. Obviously, it works. Although you are an atheist, thank you for your good eye. You have shown just what I've been saying for a long time: just look at the history of Christianity, if someone wants to find its original shape. It is an exercise in historical research, not belief.
God bless.

By: Dear Dogma

Dear Dogma — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

Just as God did not drop a book of heaven (which is written and edited by men inspired) God also did not drop a book correctly identifying the theological principles of the sky either.
History reveals that Christian theology was correct development that came from the promotion of different viewpoints. It was the meeting of bishops in the councils of the early church that determines what was accepted as orthodoxy and heresy was ruled out. The authority to "bind and loose" was given to the church of Christ, who promised to send his spirit guide in the truth. How else could maintain the legitimacy of the canon of Scripture … This infallibility applies to the precepts of theological orthodoxy, like religion, too. In fact, historically, creed before the closing dates of the canon. Catholicism is indeed Christian. The emergence of Protestantism in the conviction justified the sale of indulgences in no way legitimizes the heresies of others who accompanied him.

By: coffee_p

coffee_p — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

How Rome, Constantine / Caesars create the office of Pope as a military supervisor of the peoples who, when followers of the teachings of Christ ever the idea that when the authority of the church who held the position of God on earth ? change the laws of God and time?! changed the Sabbath a day of sun?
the rosary? Mary? this holy and the other?
All that is taught as a Catholic is contrary to the Bible and God's laws.
How the church can be recorded in the first place? when followers and the apostles were the church / body of believers following Christ. the martyrs who, when the early Christians, when persecuted, burned at the stake, etc.
Pedro Pedro's claim is the first pope is so weak … (do not know about this?)
faith and knowledge in Christ is the "rock" the church is built.
The Apostle and the letters written back and forth are the records of the early Church, and they all keep the Sabbath, kept the commandments and follow Christ.
are right for a fact, the whore of Babylon is an ancient and universal.

By: Hannibal the Cannibal

Hannibal the Cannibal — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

Because Catholics also believe in a set of dogmas that do not align exactly with the Bible. For example, adhere to the idea that Mary was a virgin throughout her life despite the fact that Chapter 7 of the Gospel of Matthew specifically states that Jesus had brothers (and not spiritual brothers, real brothers). So is purgatory (place where the soul leave until he paid the money to free the soul of the person) still believe in it even though it is never mentioned in the Bible.
Another issue is the prayer to the saints. I remember reading that Paul was angry that people were trying to worship him and his friends, saying he did not deserve worship, they were only there for the edification of God. So naturally, Catholics made him a saint and pray for certain things. Yes, it makes sense.
Anyway, as you may or may not agree with the religion, I'm just saying that is why Protestants say that Catholics are wrong. Just answering the question.

By: Sentinel (TRC)

Sentinel (TRC) — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

Jesus established one church and was one holy and apostolic, in the fact that Jesus prayed that his followers be one in love and unity as He was with His Father in heaven, you can not dissect the body of Christ , as Protestantism has done and call yourself a member of his church.
The root cause of the animosity of the Catholics is not the heretic Martin Luther who actually use the pretext of selling indulgences for their own church, as years later, also testified.
Roman Catholics belong to the original church founded by Christ in St. Peter's, everyone else outside the true Church are in extreme and therefore must attack the mother church to try to give some credence to his rebellious behavior and heretical.
Oddly enough, it's a very unusual for a Catholic to say that Protestants are not Christians because unlike Catholicism, Protestantism has not, and that `s mode of operation of a critical spirit, and the church of Christ is always ready and willing to receive those who have strayed.

By: C

Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

It has been abolished long ago. Luther left, but his beliefs were more in line with the Catholic Church. He should have stayed and worked for reform instead of letting my humble opinion.
But Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary, among other things that today's Protestants in many cases. Luther wanted 30,000 denominations.

By: don1862

don1862 — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:39:53 +0000

His first-century church was not Catholic. The early church became Catholicism for centuries. Many people date the beginning of the Catholic Church to Constantine in 300 AD. Beliefs changed dramatically ove many years. Reformers such as Luther and Calvin tried to bring the church back to their early beliefs.