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A question for Catholics and Orthodox (preferably someone with theological training in one of these religions)?

I know about his teaching that Mary was a virgin throughout her life. I've heard arguments for this teaching, and I know what the Bible says against this teaching. Do not want any argument for perpetual virginity now. What I want to know is: Why is this doctrine so important to you?

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13 comments for “A question for Catholics and Orthodox (preferably someone with theological training in one of these religions)?”


  1. St. Alan servant of Jesus says:

    It is very important to Catholics that Mary remained a virgin. Because if she is not virgin then she is not holy. Mary must be holy and without sin to them and to worship their god.

  2. PaulCyp says:

    It is important because it is the truth. Christ said the truth sets us free. He presented his church with the fullness of truth, saying its leaders "whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven" and "The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth", and "he who hears, Can you hear me. " For what the Bible calls the church and not another "pillar and foundation of truth." The perpetual virginity of Mary has been the constant teaching of the Christian church for 2,000 years. We, as members of his church are not really interested in the new tradition of men generated by churches in conflict not authorized by the man who did not exist until a few hundred years ago, and there in defiance of the clearly expressed in Christ "that all be one". It would be funny if it were not so absurd when a member of one of the thousands of Protestant denominations in conflict, they can not agree among themselves about the meaning of a passage from the Bible alone, decides to tell the true Church founded by Christ his own writings to say, and why the beliefs he has held since apostolic times should be abandoned in favor of their own conjectures unauthoritative on a collection of early Catholic writings.

  3. denise t says:

    This belief is important because of the uniqueness of the human call mission.No Mary and was made in the womb that gave God did not degrade man.Her virginity sex or believe that Mary marriage.Catholic freely chose to honor her virginity God, just as she freely accepted to be the mother of God.Even Protestant reformers believed in the virginity of Martin Luther, John Calvin and Ulrich Zwingli.

  4. Catholic Defender says:

    *** *** Pastor of art with the Catholic sex is holy. This comment only shows your ignorance and willingness to spread lies about the Catholic faith.
      Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of pure gold from the Word of God. Mary is the Ark of the New Partnership and is the purest vessel for the Word of God made flesh.

  5. harleyle says:

    I'm no theologian, but I think the important aspect here is the miracle of the virgin birth. It is a symbol of how Jesus had no earthly father, he is the son of God.

  6. Saecula Saeculorum says:

    It is important to us. It is important to you, as always talking about her. Only non-Catholic Christians consider important enough to keep worrying about her. Only fire and move on with his life.

  7. kathasqu says:

    It is very important because it highlights the purity and the importance of the mother of Christ.

  8. Catholic Mythbuster says:

    You're not the first to ask this question, and without wishing that the case for her perpetual virginity, you will come anyway, simply because they are essential in understanding the importance of this doctorine.
      Indeed, there is a lot of internal biblical evidence to suggest that Christ had no brothers, so that even Luther and Calvin, according to the Catholic position. Biblical examples of the word "brothers" that means more than just "brothers" are many: nationality (Rom. 9:3), neighbor (Luke 10:29), those with a common interest (Matthew 5:47 ) or call (Revelation 22:9), all mankind (Matthew 25:40) the disciples (Matthew 12:49-50), all Christians (Romans 1:13) and so on.
      This debate about whether Christ had brothers, of course, tends to be the center of the existence of Mary remains a virgin, which is why they play the theme.
      The Hebrews used the word "brother" in the generic sense of "relative". Take, for example, James and Joseph, as described in Matthew 13:55 (with Simon and Judas), as the brothers of Jesus, but they are also called children of Mary the wife of Cleophas. "(And this is called the Virgin Mary's sister" in John 19:25, which suggests that he was a brother, cousin or other relative.)
      In fact, the Greek word used to describe all these relationships is adelphoi, which means "cousins".
      Also, I see no assumptions brothers and sisters of Jesus anywhere in several other accounts, such as when carried to the temple at age 12, or on the cross, where Jesus gives his mother in the care of the beloved disciple, not one his brothers claim, and if he had any siblings such that the brother would have taken Mary into his house, not the disciple.
      The latter leads us to why the doctrine is so important. Besides just being what the Bible teaches, one reason is the preservation of the doctrine of virgin birth, and thus, indirectly, the Incarnation. If Mary had other children in the usual way, then everyone would know he had children conceived by natural means, and the potential that exists for denying that Jesus' birth was supernatural. Its remaining a virgin all his life highlights the extraordinary miracle of the conception of Jesus.
      The fact is that Scripture never indicates that she and Joseph never had sex. In fact, most biblical scholars believe he was consecrated to God at an early age, based on his own statement in Lucas that she is the "servant of the Lord." Also, he has never met a man.
      Even Matthew 1:24-25, indicated by most Protestants as evidence that Joseph had normal marital relations, not after the birth of Christ, is really indicative of the same.
      The word "until" does not mean a change in a state of affairs. In both English grammar and biblical ussage can simply mean "until". For example, in Matthew 11:12, Jesus says: "From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force." Obviously, this violence did not cease at that time. That was in progress.
      Similarly, it is true that Joseph must have "met" Mary after Jesus was born, simply because the word "until". In fact, the Greek word for "met" sunerchomai, has a wide range of meanings not clearly sexual in nature.
      There is no interpretation of Scripture, and none of it is ignored. Throughout history, during the past 2,000 years, the Catholic Church interprets Scripture in the same, since the days of Christ and his establishment of his church. It only Protestants who have ever reinterpreted and ignored the Scriptures.

  9. morporc says:

    There are many reasons for the perpetual virginity is the core of Church teaching. I'm sure you can find many of them himself.
      Among my favorites is that the perpetual virginity of Mary claims that Ezekiel's prophecy of the Closed Door (Ezekiel 44:1-3) refers to Mary as a permanent channel for humanity to salvation.
      It seems natural to believe that Christ choose the smart path to save all the meat through the flesh of his mother (well) - rather than an approximation Bogden, as claimed by Protestants. After all, the Incarnation is about saving the meat through the meat.
      But then, I've always thought that God of the Protestants was a little lumpy.
      ….
      [Edit]
      Why the Catholic need "re-interpret or ignore any part of Scripture to prove a point?
      St. Jerome decided which books would form the canon of the Bible. The Bible is our own.

  10. ♣ Angie says:

    I had no theological training, but I understood that Mary was a virgin in the Temple (married to God), and Joseph was an elderly widower. That their marriage was an arrangement (and therefore, no need to "ensure" their marriage was consummated). And Joseph died sometime between Joseph and Mary find Jesus in the temple, and the beginning of Jesus' ministry.
      When the angel came to tell Mary that was to conceive (future tense), was already betrothed to Joseph, so why would be so impressed with him unless he never intended to have sex with Joseph?
      The agreements are of Church tradition. And I prefer to believe what the first Christians believed in that case that the Protestant revisionist historians.

  11. Pastor Art (((SFECU))) says:

    Note that I am not Catholic, but I have studied Catholic theology more than most Catholics.
      For the Catholic, sex is always sinful.
      That's why the Catholic Mary can never be pure Mother of God "if you ever had sex.
      Even went a step further with the teaching of the Immaculate Conception, affirming that Mary was born without sin.
      That somehow has to have Mary without sin.

  12. tigercub says:

    because the Bible is the Word of God, I believe the King James Bible says.

  13. Elementary Physics says:

    That's a stupid idea. He married, of course there were a lot of sex with her husband after she gave birth.



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