Comments on: Why people equate Praying Mary with "cult"?

By: Wolfebla

Wolfebla — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

Because they hate Catholics find any excuse for their bigotry and intolerance, and the Blessed Virgin is a very visible target. Never mind that there had been no Savior without her fiat, or who was the first disciple of Jesus in a very real sense. He put his words to heart and pondered all that he said, long before Peter and the others became his followers.
And I certainly would not want it known that she was the only woman at Pentecost in the Upper Room, now do you? Why, it might be too as saying he was honored and respected among the early Christians.
Face it: we will always be tarred with the faithful, "Mary" brush, no matter how many times he says otherwise. Some people have gotten into their heads that we are a group of idolaters Mary, not a word to say never penetrate the dense jungle of misconceptions that passes through their views on Catholicism.
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By: sandand_

sandand_ — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

All I know is that my aunt was in hospital a few years ago, and quite close to death (my cousin called us to let us know). He was 70 years old, had a kidney transplant and, severe cellulitis, and perhaps become septic. 2 of my cousins had some clothes from my aunt took him to the shrine of Padre Pio and put his clothes on the statue, said some prayers and took the clothes back.
She made a full recovery from that night. doctors do not call it a miracle or anything, but had no way to explain it.

By: furgetab

furgetab — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

Why would I pray to Mary or anyone else. Jesus said to pray to the Father in His name (Jesus Christ)

By: St. Preachy

St. Preachy — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

Sasi think is right. You do not go far enough with his quotation from the Scriptures. What he said may be true, but the verse you used does not support it. I think they are being completely frank about the Catholic practice, though, as there are many, many Catholics who rely almost entirely on the intercession of Mary and prayer directly to God. Not enough to say they are not practicing the teaching of the official Church because the Church, to my knowledge, does nothing to correct this.

By: benjamin

benjamin — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

I think one of the main reasons for the misunderstanding and confusion is not understanding, or perhaps believing in the "communion of saints", trust me, even some Catholics are to blame here.
Do not be too hard with our Protestant brothers and sisters, (and they are our brothers and sisters) who simply do not know or understand some concepts of the Catholic Church, have not been trained or taught.
I think if we (all Christian denominations) will focus on mutual love and worship of Christ that God unite us in a lot of problems of other faiths.
But you know man, it's more fun to make a copy of the bite and slander to be in harmony. must make God very sad.
We must pass all these "obsessions" and get "caught-up in the capture of us …. and even that is Christ.
if you really do and seeking purity of heart through it all the rest of this mess straighten free.
Benjamin Fr

By: Sister blue eyes

Sister blue eyes — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

* Trying not to hit *
I think, for me, is the pedestal that is placed on. It is the fact that statues of Mary knelt before.
They all seem to say, "We adore you."

By: gumby

gumby — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

look at the definition of prayer.http: / / dictionary.reference.com / Search / p …

By: Senator John McClain

Senator John McClain — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

I understand that Catholics do not worship Mary or other Saints who pray as well. However, I also understand that others may see it as worship. I do not know much about other religions, but I've never heard of any other church or religion, praying to someone other than worship.

By: BC

BC — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

Are you so caught up in his own delusion that he forgot that you asked a question. "Why do people equate prayer to Mary in the" cult "?"
And the answer is that Catholics put Mary instead of Christ, asking the dead on behalf of the living, as they seek to replace all Christ. Mary is dead, asleep in Christ, she can not hear their "requests" or interfere in their concerns and problems. She wakes up when all the saints awake in the resurrection at the return of Jesus Christ.
Quoting Scripture as Romans 8: 38-39, you twist it the sense of what you want, and void the Word of God says that in many places, the saints are still asleep in their graves (Acts 2: 29, John 11:13, Job 14:7-15, Isaiah 38:18, Psalm 6:5, Psalm 115:17, Luke 8:52-55, Ecclesiastes 9:10, 1 Thessalonians 4:14,16, etc. ..). Romans 8: 38-39 says nothing about the dead who are awake and alive and able to intercede for anyone. Nor in any way imply that there is no death for the saints, for it is appointed for men to die once (Hebrews 9:27), without exclusion of the saints.
Throughout the Bible, not once is there any reference of a pious man calling on the dead, nor is there any suggestion to do forever. But rather, God rebukes those who think so (Isaiah 8:19).
Why do we think that worship Mary? Because they put on a pedestal above everyone else in a place that God has not appointed any man, but Christ. You give her praise for things he has done. You make a request that she can not keep.
What is worship? "
· wor ship (religion) n. 1. a. The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol or a sacred object. b. The ceremonies, prayers or other religious forms by which you express this love. 2. Ardent devotion, worship.
- TheFreeDictionary (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/worship …
Is not this the way to act and feel towards Mary? It seems so. And so rightly says, of Catholics, that they do indeed worship Mary.
With respect to its spin of 1 Tim. 2:1-4, is asking others to pray with us, like asking a dead person to pray for us? Again, twist the Scriptures to their own desires and their own destruction (2 Peter 3:16). Paul wrote the intercession between the forces of darkness and the operation of God's purpose. He wrote to the saints to pray for "all men" who have not known God.
And again, twisting the scriptures of the Hebrews 12:22-24 to say what they want. It is, as Romans 8: 38-39, says nothing about the state of the saints, whether awake or asleep in death.
Read the scriptures for your car, and what he says, as theologians say it means deceiving. Obeying Christ Jesus, who taught that we must worship the one true God, not a man dressed in fine linens and a pompous hat.

By: cristoig

cristoig — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:10:24 +0000

Sasi,
This does not change the meaning at all. His interpretation is changed by what you add to these verses by eisegesis understanding and making a false interpretation of another verse. Asking a saint to pray for us is not necromancy as this speaks of a pagan belief that the ancestors of others can give them knowledge of the future. We are not asking these things of the saints, but simply asked to pray that God grant us the grace to endure the ultimate salvation. The Bible says that we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses who are the saints, and also tells us that the prayers of the saints are presented before the throne of God.
There are many verses that point to the fact that when you die a physical death that come out of the eternal life abiding in more abundance as Christians. When speaking of necromancy physically dead, they are probably the demons, Christians instead of asking for prayers of those who have run the race and was successful because the Bible says that the prayers of the righteous are most beneficial. But like Jesus is the only Mediator, the Saints and their friends here on earth to pray for us with great benefits and, indeed, an example of sacrificial love to others to promote scripture. It is through this love we pray for others. If you follow their way of thinking about prayer that they would not pray for others or you can pray, because prayer is actually a mediator and that the Bible says it's the Christian spirit that makes us want to help others and allowing others to exercise their love of prayer for us.
Of course it is less severe because she does not judge like her Son, but simply wants a pure love of her Immaculate Heart. She prays for her son to give us the grace that is not hers, but her son.
If you've ever prayed for someone who has been a mediator as the Blessed Mother. If you've ever asked anyone to pray for you, you have asked to be a mediator for you. What practice non-Catholic Christians is no different!
In Christ
Fr Joseph
Cruz C,
In the context of what is the teaching that is correct. When we pray to the Blessed Virgin who are asking to pray the same as asking someone to pray. He was not trying to teach all the different nuances of speech, but he was talking about a specific situation and relating to a practice which, as a Protestant, can be identified. Is the feeding with milk before meat. Consider the audience that lacks the fullness of the truth that we Catholics. These attacks come across as arrogant and not very evangelical. our job is to help them reconcile with the Church does not dig in against him like trying to explain all aspects of Catholic theology. Did you learn everything at once? Of course not.