Catholics: Why believe man-made doctrine of the holy word of God?
You say that Mary was without sin but the Bible tells us in Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God," it says "everyone except Mary. And do not say that Catholics wrote the Bible because it removes all doubt as to their intelligence.






Good point. Add that to the countless unbibical false doctrines of the Catholics.
Catholics are not saved and are not Christians. Catholics believe that a false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell (Galatians 1).
Masters of the Bible that says the Vatican and the Catholic religion is an antichrist John Bunyan, John Huss, John Wycliffe, John Calvin, William Tyndale, John Knox, Thomas Bacon, John Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, Samuel Cooper, John Cotton, and Jonathan Edwards
Protestants claim that Mary could not have been immaculately conceived by then there would be no need for redemption. This is evidenced by his own words in the Magnificat: "My spirit rejoices in God my Savior" (Luke 1, 47). In addition, St. John clearly states that "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us?" (1 John 1, 8). How can Catholics therefore claim that the Virgin Mary was without sin? "
The Catholic Church does not deny that the Virgin Mary needed redemption, he was a son of Adam, along with the rest of humanity. However, the rescue took place in another, more sublime, "namely," the redemption by trial and error. One can be cured of a disease after having contracted, or you can save the same disease to be inoculated against it beforehand. The redemption of the Virgin Mary was carried out in this way the latter, thereby preventing rather than being under the dominion of Satan.
The Church is supporting the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, in the words of the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary: "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women" (Luke 1: 28 [ Douai]). She was going to conceive the son of God, the Holy of Holies, it has to be very holy, and therefore be preserved, not only of actual sin, but also from all stain of original sin. The words of the angel would not have been totally honest was the Virgin Mary, not a single moment, deprived of grace.
St. Luke 1, 28 remains a source of much controversy. Most Protestants prefer to the original Greek kecharitomene as "highly favored" and not "full of grace". In fact, a strict translation kecharitomene is "you who have been blessed." Of the two options, "full of grace" is a clear and definite interpretation of the words of the angel who "favor". For this conclusion there is no authority of the Latin Fathers, the codices of Alexandria and Ephrem Syriac and Arabic-language Bible, and even the writings of Protestants as Wycliffe, Tyndale, and Beza.19
The Church, moreover, asserts that God, immediately after Adam's fall, accursed Satan and said: "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he will strike his head" ( Gen. 3, 15). Was it the seed of the Virgin Mary, that is, Jesus Christ, which was demolished in the kingdom of Satan. It was unfair that she who would cooperate in the defeat of Satan, should never be infected by the breath or a slave to his kingdom of sin. The enmity between the Virgin Mary and the serpent because God was his triumph over sin, the Immaculate Conception.
That God created the Virgin Mary in a state of holiness which had formed Eve and the angels is consistent with the honor of God, the Father, whose daughter is, the Son, which she is a mother, and the Holy Spirit, who , in the incarnation, took the Virgin Mary to be his wife. Moreover, as the "New Eve" and the mother of Adam, the Virgin Mary is not appropriate is anything less than the original Eva, on the contrary, as Christ said Adam, as the Virgin Mary (although in lesser extent) should protrude Eve.
Virgin Mary, herself, when she appeared at Lourdes in southern France in 1858 to St. Bernadette Soubirous said she was "the Immaculate Conception." The back flow of thousands of miracles derived from the waters of the grotto Lourdes attest to the authenticity of the apparitions of the Virgin Mary, and are a matter of public record for all to examine.
If you do not want to believe, do not. But we refuse to believe that you and your ilk "discovered" Christianity, and "truth" only 500 years ago ..
Do not forget - even the Bible is man … is the stories of men, passed down through the centuries.
Hahaha me read that as "the Hollywood of God …"
You're a Ghost, and speaking of intelligence?
Do not believe it is purely artificial (just as infallible as the Bible). The Bible, the inerrant word of God (Matt. XVI, 18-19), gives this infallible authority of the Church formuate dogmas which can not be able to demonstrate in the Bible itself. In reality, demonstrating the dogmas is not the main purpose of the Bible. The main purpose of the Bible is to inspire us to love God and neighbor. In other words, the Bible is not a textbook or dictionary to prove the dogmas. The Bible is primarily a love story filled with plenty of real magic. The Church has the ability, since the Bible itself, to formulate dogmas through the man as the infallible Word of God revealed.
Epistle of James
Chapter 1
19 You know, my dear brothers. And every man be swift to hear, but slow to speak, slow to anger. 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
23 For if a man is a hearer of the word, not a doer, that is compared with a man who sees his own face in a mirror.
24 For he saw himself, and went his way, and now he forgot what kind of man he was.
25 But that has looked into the perfect law of liberty, and has continued therein, not being a hearer who forgets but a doer, he shall be blessed in his doing.
26 And if anyone thinks he is religious, not bridling his tongue but deceives his heart, his religion is worthless.
You object to the sinlessness of Mary, for Paul writes that "all have sinned" (Romans 3:23).
All persons who have committed actual sins? Consider a child below the age of reason. By definition, can not sin, since sinning requires the ability to reason and the ability of the intention of sinning. Paul speaks in Romans of the time when Jacob and Esau were unborn babies as a time when "he had done nothing either good or bad" (Romans 9:11).
All Christians know of another very important exception to the "all have sinned" rule: Jesus (Hebrews 4:15). So if Paul's statement in Romans 3 includes an exception for Jesus, one can argue that an exception for Mary can also be made.
Paul's comment refers not to absolutely everyone, but most of us - like you and me - which means that young children and other special cases, like Jesus and Mary, be excluded, without having to be indicated.
In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, without sin. All souls in heaven are without sin. It is when man is without sin, which is more fully what God wants it. Jesus told Christians to be perfect. He was the sinless life, was possible in the example of his own mother, the Mother of God.
Cheers,
Bruce
What exactly is your question? You do not make sense.
I do not know any Catholics who think they wrote the Bible. We do not worship Mary, she was human. God made her special to enable him to take Jesus to the world as a human being.
When is exactly what you have a problem with Catholics believe in Mary as divine?
Why ignore the "Writing", which tells us that it is sending the counselor to take the whole matter of truth —? When the Bible speaks of cloning or stem cell research? "These are areas that, as Christians are just supposed to know or think you might have made arrangements for these new things with the advice of the Holy Spirit through a person of authority — the Pope and the bishops with the apostolic succession belongs?
Understanding of the doctrines of the Catholic Church is involved and requires the Holy Spirit to guide us in truth. If you know how to dig a piece of his finger does not mean they know how to perform brain surgery and I think this is the comparison between those who contemplate seriously the Catholic doctrine and those who think that only knows the Scriptures and the Holy One of God
Who do you think wrote the Bible jackass? Do you think what you believe in God put his hand from heaven, took a pen and put it on paper?
If faith is based on intelligence, then no one has faith. There are many people who want to understand God, and when they can, that do not. There are many tenants of many religions require the faithful to suspend their disbelief. That's just part of it. God does not expect to understand it. He is far beyond our comprehension. Each of us has its own way, and because we are people, not always agree.
Nobody is telling you that you must believe, like me. I'm not saying that mine is the only way. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, and while it may think you are in error, based on my beliefs, never imply that they are stupid because they believe as I do.
Sorry, no time to give a complete answer, I will try to return to give more, but please read this with an open mind. You will find why we believe that Mary never sinned (493). How could Jesus, who was pure sin of being born a woman with sin? Impossible.http: / / http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p122a3p2.h …
why they believe the man made doctrine, because look what is in front of them for themselves. if they did … what they really do what God asks us to do and what is required of us as children of God.
well said Chris.
1 of 5 books of the Bible was written my Moses … He was not Catholic. He believed in God by faith and faith.
>>> You say that Mary was without sin but the Bible tells us in Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God," it says "everyone except Mary. >>>
Romans 3:23 refers to humanity in general, not every one.
For example, does not refer to people with severe mental disabilities who are unable to understand the concept of sin.
Nor does it apply to infants and young children who die before they are old enough to understand the concept of sin.
Nor does it apply to Mary, the angel Gabriel said in Luke 1 is full of grace. The text of the original Greek translation means wholeness and fullness of grace - and a person who is full of grace is certainly sinless.
Does this mean that Mary had no need for a Savior? Not at all. "My spirit rejoices in God my Savior," he says in Luke.
If sin is a deep well, which are saved it because it is removed from it after falling in In the case of Mary, who was kept from falling into the hole in the first place. In both cases, the saving grace of God at work.
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I think you have your mind made up about our intelligence, "" ya, brother.
This problem has been asked, answered and hash more often in R & S. You will receive patient responses explaining what Catholics believe, and yet all you are looking for an "amen" to his own prejudices.
The debate, in this case is useless.
"If anyone says I love God, and hates his brother is a liar, because he who does not love his brother whom he has seen can not love God whom he has not seen" (1 John 4:20)