Fundies: Which is exactly what Catholics do that are against God or the Bible?
We all know that Catholics do not worship Mary and the Saints, so do not try this. What really is what we do that is against the Bible?
- — How can Catholics that Mary Mediatrix of God when the Bible says that Jesus is the only God?
- Catholics: If the Bible does say that Mary ascended into heaven?
- If Catholics are in the Bible "Then why do people pray to, besides God?
- Only the Catholics: Why do Graven Images When the Bible says, "You shall not make a graven image"?
- For Catholics: Where The Bible Omnniciense Show anyone other than God?
My question … Mary was a sinner?
The Catholic Church has its origins in Rome at a time when goddess worship was very common … (Roman mythology). The state of Rome declared to be joined (married) itself to the Christian religion in an attempt to defeat their enemies. Many in the church refused to participate in this unholy union and were persecuted by the new church "Catholic" unless you convert and submit to the rule of a pope.
Unfortunately, some people are too immature spiritually to accept that someone could interpret the Bible differently, and automatically label any others do as sinful.
Catholics are still a number of traditions that are not explicitly mentioned in the Bible, but worship is worship. There is no shame in finding a different way to the adoration of his neighbor.
It's just plain bigotry - is passed (both sides) since the 1600s when the Protestant church split.
Are not all religions somehow hypocritical? Could not the lack of another religion, if I belonged to another. They interpret the Bible to the extent possible and try to live what they think God wants. Of course not everyone will agree, all sacred books are so confusing and full of contradictions. The problem with all religions is that they are seen as absolute and unaccepting of different viewpoints. Believing in God, if you want but at least admit that I do not know, you're just after a personal belief.
First, God never said that those in heaven have eternal life. He said those who are with him may have eternal life. Not specifically the meaning of heaven, but to bring their laws and their presence with them, his teachings in writing in the tables of our hearts and after them. Regarding the second part of Him being God of the living and the dead do not mean that the spiritual life, and spiritually dead.
He said clearly that he is a jealous God, and asking the saints and of Mary of the support you are doing what He said he did not make in Exodus 20:3-5 (in part)
"Do not worship any other god besides me.
"Do not make idols of any kind … must never worship or bow down to them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God who does not share the affection with any other god !…"
When you ask the prayers of the saints, we hope that will help in any situation where you are and wait patiently for it. With friends and family sometimes do not expect them to. His faith in them, but can be less than their faith in a higher power because they are human beings after all.
Ahem, KJV Bible was not written until 1611.
Ignorance is bliss ……………………………..
Until 1829, when it passed the Catholic Emancipation Act, Catholics could not support the Parliament in the UK, or even vote. A Catholic can not buy or sell a horse more than 5 pounds, hence the saying, "I give five pounds to his horse, is still considered an insult in contemporary Ireland.
Catholics were discriminated against in Ulster until very recently.
Catholics still can not ascend the throne in the UK, nor any member of the Royal Family to marry a Catholic.
I enjoy all the fundies have problems with us are:
A) A problem with a belief or practice that is not really Catholic, and in many cases, even an offense which can lead to excommunication. (like the cult of Mary)
or
B) On the basis of a flagrant twisting of Scripture. (eg, trying to imply that Jesus is the only mediator has nothing to do with prayer)
I guess that's what you get when people's egos get inflated as to think that they know better than the year 2000 an old institution …
My husband is Catholic, my father was Catholic, my family by my father is Catholic, but my mother was Pentecostal. I grew up Pentecostal, so that you and I are quite different at the ends of the rainbow, lol. I studied Catholicism and the major problems I have with it is that many of the traditions and rituals of the church that you are not in the Bible. And I think that is very dangerous territory when you include something that is not in the Bible. I do not like the idea that the Pope, I think it has elevated itself to a place that should not be. Think about it, Jesus came to this earth, was a carpenter, was not rich, and was not liked by most of its peers. Just look at the Pope's clothes! He is not humble at all! My problem is definitely not the Catholics, I love all fellow Christian, but has a serious problem with how much power the church has on its people, and more of the name. And seriously, I ask you to look online for images of people bow down and kiss the feet of the giant statues of saints. I think the Catholic church has many problems as any other church, but still recognize you as brothers and sisters in the Lord. God bless you, and hope it does not offend you.
Catholics are not "born again".
Since they do not adhere to a vague interpretation of a passage from the book published for years, which must be evil.
Religion is funny.
… As the 2-week-old fish funny.
Before becoming Catholic, had always thought that was the fact that they could celebrate Mass every day. I had always thought that was only on Sundays. It's amazing some of the things we take as truths. I am very pleased that the Mass is celebrated every day. It makes me stronger in faith. In studying the Catechism and learned the real explanations of things so much more sense. I suggest (because I'm a convert) a person takes the time to learn what the other person of faith is really all about. Learn the truth about their faith and not propaganda about it. When I do it reaffirms my faith and not threaten it.
Well, the Eucharist is bad. Hebrews 10:10 tells us that Jesus sacrificed his body once and for all. Saying that the Eucharist wafer literally becomes the body of Christ, He is, literally, sacrifice themselves every Sunday.
In addition, you can not say that the treatment of Mary is unbiblical, and I think that rape in idolatry. 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that there is one mediator between man and God, who is the mediator of Jesus Christ. You believe in prayer with Mary, you are getting your broker to us, the United Nations, which is so blatantly-biblical. Moreover, the belief that Mary had a hand in salvation, no matter how small, is disgusting and if you have some knowledge of the Bible has to admit it.
Moreover, no man has the capacity to forgive their sins. This goes back to the "one mediator" argument again. The confession, therefore, it is also unbiblical.
Moreover, the idea that the pope goes back to the "one mediator" argument.
Should I continue?
Credentials OK:
Fundamentalist Christian who has read the Catechism of the Catholic Church from beginning to end (an excellent thing for any Christian to do, BTW …)
1) What do they do that is "against" the Bible
I know you do not accept the "worship" something like a response, but the fact is …. that some Roman Catholics (RC) ** ** do worship the statues - the true worship - although the Church teaches against such practices RC itself. The fact that such things are allowed * * * and * is objectionable contrary to Scripture. Do not believe me? The offer of the worst seem to be in Latin America, where the statues of Mary claims to possess specific traits - traits that had been occupied by the pagan idols - are literally left - for the statue ** ** . Some also worrisome European practice - for example, walking around the statue of Mary through the streets in which people throw money at it. My complaint in this matter: the statues are allowed to be used in ways contrary to the teachings of the church themselves. If the church can not control the idolatry of its members, then you must remove the temptation - that is, the statues.
Immaculate Conception 2) - appears to be contrary to Scripture, in which only Jesus (and Adam and Eve for a while) were without sin.
3) Although Peter may well have been the first bishop of Rome, and certainly was the first leader of the Christian church (after the Ascension), it is clear that he was subject to the authority of the Council of 12 in Jerusalem (by example, Acts 15) ** ** after the ascension. This seems to defy logic that Peter was named the sole head of the church by Jesus - as clearly it is not the head account in Acts 15 and related chapters. If Peter was not the only chief in Acts 15 - and definitely was not - then it seems that the papacy was established at the time ** ** of Jesus giving the name of Peter the "rock". Indeed, the Pope's authority, such as primates do not mature until the Great Schism (was one of the 2 reasons that cause the separation). This was at least 9 centuries * after * the time of Peter! The primacy of the pope appears to be contrary to the authority of the Council of 12 is clearly in the Acts.
That's all I can remember from the top of my head …
Forward …
Someone 2) wrote
<<They do not teach the true Word of God of the Bible of King James. The Catholic Church used to kill people who read the KJV Bible again in 1536.>>
You missed the very obvious error in this comment. The King James Bible was first printed in 1611 ….( smile) Anyone who reads in 1536 deserved to be murdered, in my opinion …
3) It was the Catholics that the Bible together, in 400 AD,
OK, this is to eat all the cake and let none of his friends. The church of the Roman Empire - who decides which books to include in the Bible in the 4th century - is the direct hierarchical ancestor not only of the Catholic Church but also for all ** ** of the Eastern Orthodox sects, in addition to several other sects existing * * Eastern Christianity. Indeed, given the location of relevant tips (Hippo and Carthage), the Eastern Orthodox sects * can * claim the lion's share of credit with respect to the creation of the Bible. At least, Catholics must not "hog the credit" for something that does * not * exclusively to his credit.
4) and the writers of the RV took the pieces that did not like.
This is not true - a common mistake. The King James version actually includes 3 scripts omitted from modern Bibles Catholic! - In addition to all the scripts included in Roman Catholic Bibles. However, it * is * true that most modern editions of the RV ** ** are very short. This is the decision of the editorial (s), * not * the translators, and so-called "Standard text" includes all * still * Western canon.
It is true that many people have deep misconceptions about the term the Roman Catholic Church. Probably inherited from early Protestant teachings have softened over the centuries. However, there are points worthy of discussion - I wish I could remember more. * * For most, however, the doctrine of CR is the sound - more noise than many other Christian sects. However, it should correct the things that are not proper according to Scripture.
Jim http://www.bible-reviews.com/
You're just deceiving you think. Setting the popes as the successor of Peter is one. Jesus never said that Peter was the rock that the church was founded upon.Peter said that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus said, flesh and blood has not revealed to you, but my Father in heaven, and thou art Peter and upon this rock (revelation knowledge) I build my Peter church.Not.
Jesus said elsewhere that if he builds his house upon the sand, (religious tradition) then when the storms of life comes, it will destroy your house. But if built his house upon the word of God, then the same storm will not move it.
Another thing is that vows of poverty ridiculous that the church is then stored to the warehouse full of gold and silver in Rome. Nowhere in the word of God is the message to take vows of poverty. 111John 2 says that only opposite.God desires above all things to prosper and be in health, even when our souls poverty business prosper.That oh filtered into Christianity some 300 years after Pentecost. It came through Eastern religions, and came through the Gentiles. You can not get the seed of Abraham to believe yet.
Galatians 3:21. And if Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the same promises.Such Psalm 103:3 and Psalm 112.
These are just some things that are wrong about Catholicism. Remember that Jesus said that no religious traditions supported by the written word will make the word of God have no effect.
Maybe it's a scandal for the spiritually weak … although the Roman Catholic Church may denounce idolatry is a perfect opportunity for that with its wealth of sculptures, statues, and prayers to Mary and the saints.
EDIT: As I said "a stumbling block for the spiritually weak."
You misunderstood my statement … I wonder how misinterpretation of the biblical writings were done by the Catholic Church.
Very often, such as Catholicism, has become more of a tradition of faith, it is faithfully practiced. Those who call themselves Catholics are often people who have been "born" Catholic. Are taken to church, maybe went to a Catholic school and learn, to some extent on the Bible. However, more often, never practice or understand what is spoken in the Bible.
For example, the Bible says not to call anybody, but the father of your heavenly father. However, ministers call their father?
The Bible says we must confess to God and confess to each other. However, most Catholics ignore the most important step of confession to God!
Moreover, they are forgiven by confession. We need to repent and turn from what you've done. You can not continue to sin and expect to be forgiven if they did not even intend to stop! Forgiveness and regret go hand in hand. But God loves us, and he is always willing to show is the grace of love for us.
That do not adhere to the scriptures, and perverted the verses out of their context. Many believe that you are saved by believing in God. Satan believes in God! Is it safe? No. It is a process of accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, who is their belief and faith. Then there is the repentance of sin, to leave their worldly lifestyle and live according to the life Jesus lived. For the love of God, to love his people, to love his world. To become a new creation in Christ Jesus. We can not remain the same when we are saved.
My main point is that they often say things without actually finding the truth. The concepts are taken from the Bible that have not even been fully understood by those who said they are transmitted and becomes a word-of-the oral tradition.
While there are many Catholics out there who are faithful to the faith. They have learned and understood and continually seek to grow in their knowledge and faith of Jesus Christ. It clears the falsehoods directed by tradition and seek a true understanding of what God has said in his holy word. These, the few, the real Christians are those who are saved.
Hope that helped:)
It is not religion but relationship. Jesus Christ came to earth to avoid breaking the law … but to enforce the law. We comply with the law for life by the Holy Spirit sent Jesus Christ to those who receive it.
Mat 5:17 (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I came to abolish the law or the prophets: I came not to abolish but to fulfill.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
John 20:21-22 Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you. "
And having said this he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
As for the images:
2 Kings 17:41 So these countries fear the Lord and his image was carved. Their children did likewise, and their children's children - and their parents, so do to this day.
Isa 41:29 Behold, they are all a hoax, their works are nothing, their images are the empty brass.
(As for Hail Mary and other prayers to the saints):
Mat 6:6 But when you pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father in secret and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Mat 6:7 And in praying use not vain repetitions as the heathen, who think that they will be heard for their much speaking.
Mat 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of before ye ask him.
Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he (Jesus) is able to save completely those who come unto God by him, always lives to intercede for them.
(KJV)
Do you have a relationship with Jesus Christ or Mary or another saint. If I have a relationship with my husband, I have a conversation with another person and then tell them …. Oh, could you tell my husband what I just told you what is going to do this or that for me or with me. That's not what God wants of us. He wants a one on one relationship between him and us and that only happens when trust Jesus with our lives. That's where it starts.
There is much in reality. It is mainly the addition to the things that are not in the Bible, parents, and be called priests to confess their sins, nuns, saved, in part, by good works. The Pope and Mary.
I am Catholic and this is the first time I've heard what we do all that is against the Bible. If Catholicism was really bad, then why is the largest religion in the world?
I used to be melted down and the objections of all boil down to the Catholic Church gives the tradition, which depends on the church itself, which revolves around the Papacy, a higher authority or the supremacy of Scripture, which is where we meet Jesus.
There is something that really is not that Catholics worship Mary but dont pray sometimes very strict Catholic churches. It may be because I'm guessing holy water on cruxifixions
Perhaps the difference between Catholics and Protestants is like the difference between the Sadducees and Pharisees?
Nobody knows. Has anyone found God here? I wonder what he really thinks. Would it be a ***** if we have died and met with Zeus? I'd be like I knew.
Catholics disagree with the fundies fundies cry so it cuz its wussies.
The focus of the authority of the Bishop of Rome is not only contrary to Scripture, is also contrary to Christian practice.
There is no basis for the claim of infallibility.
However, for most people in the pews, this is really small potatoes.
The know-nothing Christians are much worse situations that totally reject all the traditions of the early church. The funny thing is, they accept the Scriptures, but the writing is nothing less than the product of the Church which is guided by the traditions of these idiots love to hate.
Why do they hate this tradition? Because they are lazy slugs. If you really admitted that the traditions of the early Church was founded, you should read, study and learn the writings of the Fathers of the Church. Dang are too lazy to do it, so make up things about Roman Catholics.
Matthew 23:8-10 (King James Version)
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8 but not ye called Rabbi, for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren.
9y call no man your father on earth, for one is your Father who is in heaven.
10Neither ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
1 Timothy 4:2-4 (King James Version)
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2Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if taken with thanksgiving:
the Old Testament so that you feel sorry for their sins or regard himself as a sinner. He says to respect everyone around you and do good things for others and pray for health and peace for everyone in the world. Catholics often believe they are always sinners, that is not true.
well
ethically speaking, quite
Catholics are running on a system of ethics called legal system.
This means that the rules are the laws are the number one proirity
However, it has not jesus, encouraged people to do the right thing, called Situational Ethics.
for example, who injured his hand on Saturday because he was working, when it was forbidden l
Jesus was definitely a situationalist, but Catholics intend to follow his words and teachings.
If you believe that Jesus is doing and everything else is a sin, then im sorry but they themselves are sinners.
They pray to Mary and the saints and not to do that. Confess your sins to a priest and Jesus is the only thing we pray and confess. They have statues and pictures of Jesus and not supposed to do that. They say there is no purgatory, and that is a lie. They do not teach salvation through accepting Jesus as your personal Savior.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
You pray to Jesus to God and not Mary or any other person.
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make to thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Deuteronomy 5:8 You must not make a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven, or is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
The Catholic Church is filled with all sorts of images of Mary, Jesus, Joseph, etc
Baptize babies baptized, and only after you are born again and accept Jesus as your personal Savior. Babies do not go to hell. They are innocent and who knew no sin, yet. They do not know the difference between good and evil.
After accepting Jesus as your personal Savior, and must die, you go straight to heaven and not to a place called purgatory.That is not biblical.
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God.
The nuns say they are married to God and that's not true. Born again Christians are the ones who become the wife of the Lamb of God.
Revelation 21:9 And came to me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, "Come, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory: the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has prepared.
They do not teach the true Word of God of the Bible of King James. The Catholic Church used to kill people who read the KJV Bible again in 1536.
Fundies? Who can be? I'ma Christian, but I'll give you an idea. Catholics do not worship saints exactly bu say that they pray with them and ask guoidance or to ask God for something. Well, God says dont talk to the dead so thats one to zero.
Catholic cult status, religion, dead saint, Mary
praying for people in purgatory …. Purgatory is not in the Bible, and you can not pray (or pay) people "out" …
John 14:14
If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will.
Not in the name of a saint …..
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Not the Pope … Not the mother … NO ….. any saint
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and do not need a man to teach, but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things
I do not need a man to tell us what God is or is not saying
Am I????
Sale of indulgences still exist in the CCR.