Comments on: Protestants do not recognize the Catholic saints?

By: John S

John S — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

I'm Catholic … My wife is Baptist and 9 years old I went to a Baptist private school because he was academically better than the local Catholic school
So I feel I have 1 foot in each discipline if you will, a little see both sides of the fence, if you will.
For starters, you can not make generalizations about Protestants actually … and not organized almost as much as Catholics. Most are non-denominational Christians (though if you look at the teachings of these churches non-denominational, 90% are actually Baptist)
The Protestant churches are independent in general to find out what most people believe in such matters is difficult to impossible.
Some of the most organized denominations as Methodists, Lutherans and Anglicans, do more or less, to adhere to the same doctrine (unlike the others, but among their own churches)
I'm going to generalize here for the sake of asking his question, and say:
Overall, on average, most Protestants do not recognize the Saints because the Catholic Church says … I mention because they think they were good Christians and there were some good lessons. You can call San Francisco … not because they agree with the Catholic Church, but because it is what most people refer to Francis of Assisi. Anotherwards use the term "holy" a bit like someone using Professor Higgins, instead of "James Higgins"
If you simply refer to San Francisco as "Francis" and Francisco de Asis, some people might not know who they are referring to .. but if they say "San Francisco" - ahhh .. So everyone knows they mean.
But they do not recognize the Saints simply because the Catholic Church .. because as you say, they do not follow the Pope.
They do not recognize a good person, a great theologian, etc.
Many Protestant churches believe that someone who is saved and follow the path of God is a saint … as the Bible seems to say this.
Protestants do not worship or respect for the Saints, like Catholics, because they are too simplistic in their views of what is "worship" - so to them … reverence and respect is the same as worship … and only God should receive worship.
They reason that only God should receive worship .. but obviously, Catholics do not worship Mary and the saints .. so we're OK.
Catholicism is the difference between 2 by the use of Latin words are 2 kinda cool.
Canned goods and Dulia
Canned goods = worship only God gives
A Dulia = reverence and respect given to God or a man.
ONLY God canned goods … which is the worship and devotion.
God can get Hyper Dulia or an extreme form of veneration or respect .. but usually not. It is usually canned goods, because that is a cult, that only he can get.
Catholics give Mary and the Saints Dulia … or respect.
You must also give his parents dulia
Dulia could give a foreign dignitary, the President, or a sports athlete.
BUT .. You never give any human being or a saint, even Mary, canned goods .. that would be blasphemy … you are a sin.

By: Snow Globe

Snow Globe — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

In most cases, Protestant Christians recognize that these people were exemplary and should be admired or regarded as models of conduct and devotion to God. I would say all but the most die-hard anti-Catholics that the types of St. Francis of Assisi was a wonderful man who had a major impact on the church of his time. My daughters have a special love for him .. Assisi visited years ago and was so excited that in the places where he began his ministry. Each has a little memory of him at home. My grandmother admired Mother Cabrini. She was an immigrant from Poland and did so much to Mother Cabrini's poor immigrants of his time. I am very impressed by the story of St. John Brebeuf, missionary to the Hurons. Its value is almost unbelievable.

By: Tattoomo

Tattoomo — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

They do when they drink green beer on St. Patty and send in Valentine's Day Valentine's Day. No, seriously. . .
San Francisco and St. Augustine were major contributors to philosophy, so educated speakers sometimes refer to them, regardless of their religion. (It was his philosophy, which made my husband to Catholicism.)

By: cmhelp1

cmhelp1 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

I am not a Catholic, so I guess that would be considered a Protestant by her.
But I'm really a "believer" and "follower" of Messiah Yeshua.
I say "No" I do not recognize the Catholic saints.
The Pope is a simple man, who was ordained and revered by mere humans who are blind to the truth. He has no authority to say who is or is not a God-Almighty's-Santos.
The Lord says, "Stop putting your trust in mere humans. They are as frail as breath. How can anyone be of help "(Isaiah 2:22)?
Contrary to the false teachings of the Roman Church and the doctrines of the selection of the Saints, not to the church of Rome to elect those who belong to God Almighty. . .
I believe that Almighty God created all things without help from the Roman church and therefore I can choose-HIS-Santos, without any help from it.
"And I heard another voice from heaven," Come out of her my people. Do not take part in her sins, or shall be punished by it "(Revelation 18:4).
Blessed Be

By: allcreat

allcreat — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

Some Protestant sects name their churches after Catholic saints. This is common among Anglicans or Episcoplians (as they are called in the U.S.). The Lutherans also. Both Protestant sects use the Nicene Creed in its services, which, as you may or may not know, includes the statement: "I believe in the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints …"
Despite all this, they still belong to various Protestant and condemnations contained in Sacred Scripture, Protestants, working without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, under the false interpretation of its own destruction. One such sentence is in Mark 16:16 where Jesus says: "those who believe and are baptized will be saved, those who do not believe are condemned already." Protestants, many of whom are baptized, and believe not unless they are members of the one holy, catholic and apostolic church, outside which no one is saved, they, as Scripture says, "die in their sins."

By: BibleCho

BibleCho — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

1) Do you recognize the Catholic saints, Protestants?
Well, to my knowledge no Protestant sect recognizes the sanctity of all the Catholic saints. Obviously, it depends on the Catholic Church to determine who is a saint and who is not.
Moreover, many Protestant sects * not * recognize what we might call "common" of the saints or "traditional" saints - saints who were regarded as such even before any process of canonization existed. The Anglican Communion even has its own saints (in addition to traditional).
Some Protestant preachers (as Jack Van Impe) are very "Catholic friendly", and policy support Roman Catholic and Roman Catholic saints include though not agree with all Roman Catholic doctrines.
One final note: notice that the canonization is only an identification. The Roman Catholic Church has no intention of elevating someone to sainthood. They simply say they have identified the existence of them in certain cases.
Jim http://www.bible-reviews.com/selector_rc …

By: Ockhasional Questioner

Ockhasional Questioner — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

There is a high probability that the believers who have developed considerably in their faith and are very loving. But some are strange choices like Joan of Arc, who was a brave person, but not especially holy or Christian (perhaps she was selected for political reasons). I know some, like St Cuthbert and San Francisco and St. Patrick and St. Albans, but not really particularly after the Reformation.
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These arrows reflect badly upon you Catholics. Never will your Dad! They believe in God, not man.

By: Darth Eugene Vader

Darth Eugene Vader — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

We dont use the term the same saints that Catholics do.
For Catholics (as written) are Christian saints special meeting certain criteria and canonized by the Pope.
For us, the saints who have been forgiven by God through the sacrifice of Jesus and our sins have been washed with the blood of Jesus. In salvation, Jesus declared saints.
When Paul wrote letters to the saints of the church in Rome, or Corinth, etc. was not reffering to a special group of people like Timothy, Titus, and Luke, so Paul wrote to all Christians, to all persons were members of the church in those places.
Some Protestants use the prefix when it comes to St. Francis and other Catholic saints, others do not use the "Saint" that does not mean that were different from other Christians.

By: reinadel

reinadel — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

There is a great song that sums it up. He says: "A saint is a sinner who fell and got up!" There likely are Catholics who are holy, not because any pope called a saint, rather, because his faith in Jesus Christ as savior ago a saint. God bless you.

By: imacatho

imacatho — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:16:15 +0000

Some do.
The New Testament calls Christians "saints", see Matthew 27:52. This would indicate to me that all Christian churches who take the Bible literally would be saints.
The Orthodox Church, Anglican and Episcopal churches recognize saint. And, of course, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I strongly suspect that recognize that the following churches of the Communion of Saints:
+ Episcopal Church of All Saints
+ Saint Anne's Anglican Church
+ St. Luke's Lutheran Church
+ Presbyterian Church of San Marcos
+ St. Mary Baptist Church
+ Saint Stephen United Methodist Church
With love in Christ.