Why the Catholic Bible has more than 7 books in the Protestant Old Testament? Did not God say not to?
I was reading the Bible today, when I came across this:
Revelation 22:18-19
18 I am warning everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. ** If you add to these things, God will pest you said in this book .**
19 ** If you take any word out of book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from you on the tree of life .** also take away his place in the Holy City. This book talks about these things.
** I'm not judging, just asking .**
Plus, what's in these additional books?
That added or removed, Catholic or Protestant?
- Why are the books that are in the Catholic Bible that are missing from the Protestant Bible?
- Why are some books of the Bible Protestant Catholic excluded in One?
- How many books have Protestant Do you have a Bible? And Catholics?
- Who chooses which books were the Bible and those who were left out?
- What are the seven books in the Catholic Bible but not in the Protestant Bible?
In fact, the Protestants were taken away.
Before the Reformation, the whole Christian Bible includes these 7 books. Martin Luther was extracted from undermining the authority of the Church and to eliminate the Scripture that support Catholic beliefs did not agree with.
The "official" of the Jewish Bible (which is just the Old Testament) does not have these books either, but there is more to the story. At the time of Christ these 7 books were roundly accepted as inspired Scripture. There was no official canon of scripture at the time of Jesus. After the death and resurrection of Christ, many Jews converted to Christianity. They were using the Old Testament to support his beliefs. Finally, the Jews decided to make an official book and removed the 7 books of his writings, to distance themselves from the Christians. But we know that the books were in circulation during the time of Christ, and we know that New Testament writers quoted them.
You will hear that Jesus never quoted from any of the 7 books, but this makes no difference. There are other books, as Ezra, Jesus never quoted either.
In 350AD the Catholic Church, called the official canon of Scripture. They selected and declared by the Holy Spirit's guidance, that the books were inspired by God.
The Christian Bible is authorized and canonized by groups of human beings, who tend to leave out things that are politically inconvenient or spiritually. The Protestant reformers like Luther left parts of the Septuagint (a mistranslation of the books in Hebrew), while the Coptic Gospels were outside the canon of much earlier. Gnostic Gospels also left out all the time, the Copts were excluded. The Bible is read at night before bedtime, badly edited and translated more than any other book in the world, so I (personally) is much doubt that was left was "inspired" by God.
I honestly do not know why the Catholic Bible has other books. I have read the books of the Protestant Bible are there because they were used by the early churches, and as Paul wrote his letters and cards, which were added to writing and had to be authentic. There is a very good companion book to the Bible called "Pocket Halley's Bible Handbook". It gives more background on your question.
Each book of the Bible is a book in particular. The verse in Revelation refers only to the book of Revelation, not the Bible as a whole. When John wrote the Apocalypse of the Bible was not compiled as a complete work. Revelation was written around 64 AD. of the Bible was not compiled until several hundred years later.
The Protestant Bible is lower, due to Luther's belief in the superiority of the Hebrew canon (list of books accepted.) The Catholic Church defines its list of books .. including those not in the Protestant Bible in reaction to Luther. But be aware that Canon lists changed dramatically over time with the books listed below, not included. It was not until the 1st century CE that the Hebrew Scriptures looked how to do at this point in time.
The reference to "remove the words of the prophecy of this book refers to the Book of Revelation.
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There were plenty of contemporary manuscripts that people consider sacred or holy about. Some of them are real and some of them were suspect.
Catholic scholars have found 7 more credible than Protestant scholars.
Protestantism Martin Luther invented about 500 years ago. He took the books I did not like.
"No one believes the Bible means what it says, but says what he means …"
Have you heard of King James, as in the KJV of the Bible? Took 'em out.
First, add the Catholics, Protestants held. The reason they are there is because they are in the Greek Septuagint, a translation of the Greek Jewish Tanakh. The New Testament writers referred to the Septuagint, not the Hebrew scriptures. The early Christians did the same (in Greek was the "English" of the Eastern Roman Empire, most do not read Hebrew). These books were well established in the early church.
Second, the books of the Bible were written independently, not as a big book. Therefore, removing the words of this prophecy referred to the whole Bible, but the book of Revelation only.
Of the approximately 300 Old Testament quotes in the New Testament, about 2 / 3 of them came from the Septuagint translation (the Greek version of the Old Testament), which includes the Deuterocanonical books that Protestants later removed. This is further evidence that Jesus and the apostles saw the Deuterocanonical books as part of the canon of the Old Testament. Here are some examples:
Matt. 1:23 / Isaiah 7:14 - Behold, a virgin. Hebrew - here, a "young" are conceived.
Matt. 3:3, Mark 1:3, John 1:23 / Isaiah 40:3 - to "make his paths." Hebrew - to "the loneliness of a road."
Matt. 9:13; 12:7 / Hosea 6:6 - I desire "mercy and not sacrifice. Hebrew - I want "goodness" and not sacrifice.
Matt. 12:21 / Isaiah 42:4 - in His name will the Gentiles hope (or trust). Hebrew - the isles shall wait for his law.
Matt. 13:15 / Isaiah 6:10 - dull the heart, eyes closed, to heal. Hebrew - heart fat, heavy ears, eyes closed, to be healed.
Matt. 15:9, Mark 7:7 / Isaiah 29:13 - teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Hebrew - a commandment of men (not doctrines).
Matt. 21:16 / Psalm 8:2 - out of the mouths of babes and sucklings "perfect praise." Hebrew - has "established strength".
Mark 7:6-8 - Jesus quotes Isaiah 29:13 in the Septuagint - "This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, in vain they worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Luke 3:5-6 / Isaiah 40:4-5 - crooked be straight, smooth rough roads, will be the salvation. Hebrew - omit these words.
Luke 4:18 / Isaiah 61:1 - and recovery of sight to the blind. Hebrew - the opening of the prison to which they are required.
Luke 4:18 / Isaiah 58:6 - to set at liberty those who are oppressed (or ground). Hebrew - to let the oppressed go free.
John 6:31 / Psalm 78:24 - He gave them "bread from heaven to eat. Hebrew - gave them "food" or "grain" of the sky.
John 12:38 / Isaiah 53:1 - who has believed our "report?" Hebrew - who has believed our message? "
John 12:40 / Isaiah 6:10 - so you do not see with their eyes … in turn for me to heal. Hebrew - close your eyes … and be healed.
Acts 2:19 / Joel 2:30 - blood and fire and "steam" of smoke. Hebrew - blood and fire and "pillars" or "pillars" of smoke.
Acts 2:25-26 / Psalm 16:8 - Vi … tongue rejoiced in the hope of living … .. Hebrew - I have … glory … rejoiced live in safety.
Acts 4:26 / Psalm 2:1 - the rulers "were assembled." Hebrew - rulers "deliberate."
Acts 7:14 / Genesis 46:27, Deut. 10:22 - Stephen says "seventy-five" souls went to Egypt. Hebrew - "seventy" people left.
Acts 7:27-28 / Exodus 2:14 - 'rule "and the judge, he killed the Egyptian" yesterday. " Hebrew - using "Prince" and there is no reference to "yesterday".
Acts 7:43 / Amos 5:26-27 - the store of "Moloch" and the star of God of repha. Hebrew - "the king", sanctuary, and the star of their god.
Acts 8:33 / Isaiah 53:7-8 - where justice was denied humiliation. Hebrew - oppression by … took him away.
Acts 13:41 / Habakkuk 1:5 - that "scoffers" and wonder and "die". Hebrew - that "among the nations" and "be surprised."
Acts 15:17 / Amos 9:12 - the rest (or remnant) of "men". Hebrew - the rest of "Edom".
Rom. 2:24 / Isaiah 52:5 - the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles. Hebrew - blasphemy (no mention of the Gentiles).
Rom. 3:4 / Psalm 51:4 - you "prevail" (or beat) when you tried. Hebrew - you could "be clear" when the judges you.
Rom. 3:12 / Psalm 14:1,3 - "gone wrong." Hebrew - that are "corrupt" or "dirty."
Rom. 3:13 / Psalm 5:9 - using language to deceive. Hebrew - flatter with the tongue. There is no "trick" the language.
Rom. 3:13 / Psalm 140:3 - the poison of "snakes" is under their lips. Hebrew - "" viper's poison is under their lips.
Rom. 3:14 / Psalm 10:7 - whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness. "Hebrew - curse and" deception and oppression. "
Rom. 9:17 / Exodus 9:16 - my power "in you", my name may be "proclaimed." Hebrew - show "you" can name can be, "he said."
Rom. 9:25 / Hosea 2:23 - I will call my people, I will call my beloved. Hebrew - I will have mercy (love the face of mercy).
Rom. 9:27 / Isaiah 10:22 - just a remnant of them "will be saved." Hebrew - only a remnant of them "return".
Rom. 9:29 / Isaiah 1:9 - not left us "children". Hebrew - Jehovah we had left a "very small remnant."
Rom. 9:33, 10:11, 1 Peter 2:6 / Isaiah 28:16 - He that believeth not shall be "embarrassed". Hebrew - will not be "promptly".
Rom. 10:18 / Psalm 19:4 - his "voice" is gone. Hebrew - the "line" is out.
Rom. 10:20 / Isaiah 65:1 - I have "shown to myself" that asked not for me. Hebrew - I am "asked" for them.
Rom. 10:21 / Isaiah 65:2 - "a disobedient and rebellious" people. Hebrew - a "
It was the Catholics or Protestants who changed the Bible?
In the first century Jerusalem there was at least four canons OT in use by different Jewish groups. It was the Canon of the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Jews of Ethiopia and the / Essene Jewish diaspora. Jesus and the disciples used the Septuagint, which was the Canon of the Diaspora / Essenes. We know this because it is cited in the New Testament. This Canon is still the canon of the Christians, until after the Reformation, and indeed until about 200 years ago, when the Protestants adopted a condensed version of the Canon Deuterocanonicals elimination of their Bibles. Even the AKJ originally contained the complete Christian Canon. It has been said by critics of the Church of Christ that never Deuterocanonicals believed to be inspired and the opposite is true. The decision taken by Christians as to which books are inspired and useful for teaching was decided at the African Synods in the late fourth and early fifth century. There was never any question about their inspiration.
The Old Testament canon chosen by the Protestants is actually a Jewish canon by the Jews not chosen until after the establishment of Christianity as a result of the spread of Christianity to slow the growth of the group in Jerusalem after the fall of the Temple in 70 AD. Until then, as I said there were not many in use fees. The adoption of the offense, the Canon Deuterocanonicals joined the Jews against the Christians was decided at the Jewish Council for Jamnia because too hard Deuterocanonicals mentioned the Messiah fulfilled in Christ.
Some Protestants who claim that only Jews have the authority to choose Canon but the Church that the decision to defer to Christ and his disciples, and it is clear through biblical research, the Septuagint is the Bible used by the first century Church and quoted in the NT Scriptures. The fact that Protestants choose to adopt the Canon, which was approved by the same Jews that accused our Lord that led to his crucifixion suggests the origin of this confusion from the father of lies that led the Pharisees to Christ and accused at the request of his punishment. It's another way that Satan is divided and separates the body of Christ to the faithful refuse the prayer of Christ that we are all one in Christ for his Church. The Christian church has always used the Septuagint as Canon and never the truncated version of modernist Protestants.
Some Protestants believe that Catholics mistakenly added to the Bible with Deuterocanonicals but this shows an ignorance of their own history and the history of Christianity as evidenced by the Church of Christ. The facts are that the Protestants removed Deuterocanonicals strongly considered even eliminate some of the NT books currently in use by Protestants and Catholics. Fr Martin Luther was in favor of removing the book of James because it conflicted with his heretical man made doctrines of the "Solas", Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide. The heretic Ulrich Zwingli wanted to remove the Gospel of John, for his teaching of the commandment of the Body of Christ Food and drink his blood, which contradicts your point of view of a real absence of Christ instead of a real presence in the Eucharist. Even FR. Martin Luther could not support a departure from Scripture and deny that Christ is truly and really present in the Eucharist, the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.
In Christ
Fr Joseph
Who decides what God inspired? That leaves the writings of many other spiritually inspired in the cold. The Gnostic gospels were considered heretical, so they were eliminated by the Catholic Church.
So after someone comes centuries later, and says what is in the Catholic Bible is wrong.
Where does it end? How do we know for absolute certainty what God is and what is not? Simply do not trust man? No matter what you think of simple men, they were only men.
On 7 Deutero canonical books have been added but have been omitted from the bibles of others, by Martin Luther and others who started their own religion, which is why the Protestant Bible called the Apocrypha means hidden.
You can view this page for a clearer view of the Septuagint, how the church chose to keep accepting books, etc … http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/bible.tx
WHAT ARE THE BOOKS FOR DISPUTED CALL?
What the books of the Septuagint that are not part of the Hebrew Bible, the Protestants called Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Nothing out of the Septuagint, Pseudepigrapha Protestants call, meaning "false writings."
Catholics call the books accepted by the proto-Jews, ie the "first canon." The others mentioned are the Deuterocanonical books, the "second canon". Everything else they call apocryphal.
The Orthodox as well, but have additional books in the list of Deuterocanonicals. Everything that is not in the LXX is called Apocrypha.
Copts that group 1 Enoch, along with the Deuterocanonical books and other ancient writings call apocryphal.
Hello, cordial:
I have seen King James Bibles in the 1800s with the Apocrypha in them, but because they were written by inspired authors, some were even fiction, which were removed by the Bible Society.
There are Bibles couple who still have it, as the Jerusalem Bible, and I think that Orthodoxy still holds, but rest assured, they are not losing much by curiosity as I read.
This warning in Revelation was to keep people who do not understand since the amendment of the symbols on it. If you want to understand the important aspects of the Bible have been corrupted, see the code of the Bible reveals http://abiblecode.com
Shalom, peace in Jesus, Ben Yeshua
It has been much discussion about what inspired it. Around 400 AD a group of people sat down and made a list. Catholics wanted to include some books that most people did not like because it includes the basis of belief in purgatory. Have you read the 'spurious'? I read it. There is no doubt in my mind where it belongs, and is not in writing.
1611 King James get anything more confidence if you have a NIV Bible rid of it
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
Matthew 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses)
Luke 17:36
Luke 23:17
John 5:4
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 24:7
Acts 28:29
Romans 16:24
I John 5:7
you will not find any of these in the NIV!